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1. You can keep your private insurance, you do not HAVE to but government insurance.
2. Auto Insurance is Mandated.
3. Home Owner's Insurance is Mandated.
4. Isn't health more important than the others?
So a Wingnut posts that illegals don't pay taxes.
I say they do, and often don't file because, well, they're here illegally.
So another Wingnut repies that they do pay taxes and file. OK
Then another wingnut reposts that exact same thing.
Which is it? Do they pay taxes????
Yes, of course they do. And as I've stated, may of them do not file returns - meaning they get no refund. I have worked closely with these people. You?
They pay taxes, and in the case of SS and Medicare, they never receive the benefits. They pay for our Medicare and SS.
Why haven't you turned them and the employer into ICE???
And you can't pay into SS and medicare unless you have an SS number to file to the correct account....SO if they are paying thru a payroll deduction I'd say they are using a stolen SS number....They could have a tax ID number but most don't... What do you think?
I think your prediction is correct. Those who do not want to buy insurance should be able to sign a legally binding opt out agreement that is available to all healthcare providers via a nationwide database. If an adult 'opter' shows up for medical care and can't pay - he/she goes home. Period.
What about auto insurance? It is mandated right? So the opter shows up for medical care, goes home and dies? Do you really thank that is going to happen? National database? They still dont have electronic medical records linked up, they arent going to have a national database of opters. This is all science fiction and completely unrealistic.
1. You can keep your private insurance, you do not HAVE to but government insurance.
2. Auto Insurance is Mandated.
3. Home Owner's Insurance is Mandated.
4. Isn't health more important than the others?
1 There is no 'government insurance'
2 Auto insurance is only required to cover your liability to others
3 HO insurance is not mandated at all (If you have borrowed money to buy a house, the lender will require you to cover their interest)
1. You can keep your private insurance, you do not HAVE to but government insurance. What government insurance?
2. Auto Insurance is Mandated. Only if you own a car and drive it..
3. Home Owner's Insurance is Mandated. NO it's not..
4. Isn't health more important than the others? That should be up to each person to decide, not a federal employee to do it for you...But Yes it is important..
Stop and think about you posted. Just think about it. You don't have to pay car insurance. Many people don't. They don't have a car and rely on public transportation. No one is making you pay car insurance.
You don't have to pay income tax. You only pay income tax if you work in this country. That's a choice. If you move into a cabin in the woods and live off the land, you won't pay income tax.
You can't live off the land and pay nothing. If it's in America, someone owns that land and you will either pay property tax or rent for it.
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Mandatory health insurance is a life tax. You are being forced to purchase goods and services from the Federal Gov't simply because you are breathing, which is unconstitutional.
I don't like mandatory health insurance either. But thousands of people a year die because they do not have health insurance; so since this bill will save thousands of lives a year, I am willing to deal with it.
So a Wingnut posts that illegals don't pay taxes.
I say they do, and often don't file because, well, they're here illegally.
So another Wingnut repies that they do pay taxes and file. OK
Then another wingnut reposts that exact same thing.
Which is it? Do they pay taxes????
Yes, of course they do. And as I've stated, may of them do not file returns - meaning they get no refund. I have worked closely with these people. You?
They pay taxes, and in the case of SS and Medicare, they never receive the benefits. They pay for our Medicare and SS.
They pay taxes if they have a Taxpayer ID Number and are also eligible for refunds including refundable tax credits, which means they can get back more from the government than they pay in taxes.
'Working closely with them' doesn't necessarily mean you understand the facts.
Why haven't you turned them and the employer into ICE???
And you can't pay into SS and medicare unless you have an SS number to file to the correct account....SO if they are paying thru a payroll deduction I'd say they are using a stolen SS number....They could have a tax ID number but most don't... What do you think?
Yes * news flash* they had fake SS #'s. They were supposed to keep their "papers" with them while at work. Our employer also had copies of them on file. As far as the employer was concerned, the employees were legal - they had documentation.
I didn't turn anybody in because these guys were the only people to apply for jobs at the company (landscaping). We had the occasional American apply, and they almost always quit or were fired for not showing up on time, sober, etc...
If I "turned them in," I'd have no job either as the company would fold.
They pay taxes if they have a Taxpayer ID Number and are also eligible for refunds including refundable tax credits, which means they can get back more from the government than they pay in taxes.
'Working closely with them' doesn't necessarily mean you understand the facts.
Working closely with them means I know they did not file tax returns. We talked about. Because THEY didn't file, doesn't mean illegals don't/can't file. Is that a fact that is difficult for you to comprehend?
Most illegals that file, are doing so to establish that they are here and working, in the hopes of getting amnesty/citizenship some day - not just to get taxes back. Illegals that desire to go home some day generally do not file taxes.
Sorry to hijack this thread - last post on the subject.
Working closely with them means I know they did not file tax returns. We talked about. Because THEY didn't file, doesn't mean illegals don't/can't file. Is that a fact that is difficult for you to comprehend?
What makes you think your personal experience with a handful of illegal immigrants translates to millions of them?
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Sorry to hijack this thread - last post on the subject.
Good, because you're STILL ignoring the fact that the 6.8 million illegal immigrants who have Tax ID Numbers are eligible to get back more from the government than they pay.
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