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Old 06-11-2010, 06:18 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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The lawyer tried and tried to get money out of this guy. You don't know the whole story.

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Plus much more. If you think all dads are paying their full child support, you do have another think coming.
Yea I understand that there are deadbeats out there, but want to know what I believe. I believe if a father is ordered by the court to pay child support, and he doesn't pay the full amount, he should be thrown in the slammer for quite a while. Criminals are criminals.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:19 PM
 
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john you think these children have a great life? I would hope so. Its not the child's fault the man and woman decided to have sex and get pregnant. you want these folks reproducing so they can take responsibility? Yep. I don't want them reproducing, but if they choose to they choose to and should live with it. most people who are forced to take responsibility to a **** poor job. Thats a problem that will have to change. Until then hire more child protective services workers.



.john for a conservative in this matter you sure are idealistic. no child of a hooker or drug addict is going to have a good life. all they will experience will be abuse and trouble, probably ending up with the same type of life. there are not enough child welfare workers now and there never will be for the kids that are abused.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui
john you think these children have a great life? I would hope so. Its not the child's fault the man and woman decided to have sex and get pregnant. you want these folks reproducing so they can take responsibility? Yep. I don't want them reproducing, but if they choose to they choose to and should live with it. most people who are forced to take responsibility to a **** poor job. Thats a problem that will have to change. Until then hire more child protective services workers.



.john for a conservative in this matter you sure are idealistic. no child of a hooker or drug addict is going to have a good life. all they will experience will be abuse and trouble, probably ending up with the same type of life. there are not enough child welfare workers now and there never will be for the kids that are abused.
That really is not my problem. Pass a bill that hires more. Arrest more prostitutes and put them in prison for a long time, first offense. Same with the drug dealers, same thing. I'm sure it isn't a money issue for this country so if they want to get it done they will throw enough money at it and get it done.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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That really is not my problem. Pass a bill that hires more. Arrest more prostitutes and put them in prison for a long time, first offense. Same with the drug dealers, same thing. I'm sure it isn't a money issue for this country so if they want to get it done they will throw enough money at it and get it done.
Are these your words:""I would hope so. Its not the child's fault the man and woman decided to have sex and get pregnant. "

...it's hard to tell with the way you answer posts.


Now, is it the child's fault if the mother was raped?
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:34 PM
 
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That really is not my problem. Pass a bill that hires more. Arrest more prostitutes and put them in prison for a long time, first offense. Same with the drug dealers, same thing. I'm sure it isn't a money issue for this country so if they want to get it done they will throw enough money at it and get it done.
Now he's going to end prostitution by arresting hookers.....I TOLD him that the world didn't start 23 years agao...but nooooooo, he won't believe me!
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Yea I understand that there are deadbeats out there, but want to know what I believe. I believe if a father is ordered by the court to pay child support, and he doesn't pay the full amount, he should be thrown in the slammer for quite a while. Criminals are criminals.
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That really is not my problem. Pass a bill that hires more. Arrest more prostitutes and put them in prison for a long time, first offense. Same with the drug dealers, same thing. I'm sure it isn't a money issue for this country so if they want to get it done they will throw enough money at it and get it done.
You're going to need a lot of jail space.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Are these your words:""I would hope so. Its not the child's fault the man and woman decided to have sex and get pregnant. "

...it's hard to tell with the way you answer posts.


Now, is it the child's fault if the mother was raped?
I already gave my opinion on that about 10 pages back about 2 or 3 times go check. Oh wait you won't. Oh well I guess i'll just leave you in suspense.

EDIT: Also its not a child when it is in the mothers womb. Its a parasite. I'm not pro-life, I'm pro-responsibility, or as you like to see it anti-choice (but i've already explained why that is wrong)
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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Now he's going to end prostitution by arresting hookers.....I TOLD him that the world didn't start 23 years agao...but nooooooo, he won't believe me!
Oh I know it didn't but do you think that if abortion stays legal that means child abuse is going to go away? I didn't say all prostitutes will go away forever just put a dent in the problem.
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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You're going to need a lot of jail space.
OOOH YEAH!! You are so right (no sarcasm intended). But I also think people should stop being arrested for an ounce of pot, or for selling pot, or for growing pot. If that happens, that should free SOME space.
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Old 06-11-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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Are these your words:""I would hope so. Its not the child's fault the man and woman decided to have sex and get pregnant. "

...it's hard to tell with the way you answer posts.


Now, is it the child's fault if the mother was raped?
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Originally Posted by JohKnip View Post
I already gave my opinion on that about 10 pages back about 2 or 3 times go check. Oh wait you won't. Oh well I guess i'll just leave you in suspense.

EDIT: Also its not a child when it is in the mothers womb. Its a parasite. I'm not pro-life, I'm pro-responsibility, or as you like to see it anti-choice (but i've already explained why that is wrong)
I am not in suspense about how you feel about women...I explained that.

You have never (and will never) answer my question because you can't.


"""Now, is it the child's fault if the mother was raped?""""
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