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Old 04-21-2010, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Nonsense. The people of NJ are unwilling to pay the real cost of educating their childern. Let them try doing it by themselves as well as the public schools. Home schooling only produces uneducated ideologs with few social skills.

Besides why should being a teacher require a vow of poverty? Being a lawyers does not and IMHO teachers are much more value to society than lawyers.
Please explain this example
Homeschooled student scores perfect on ACT - The Herald Dispatch
Michael Petrany is smart beyond his 16 years, but neither he nor his parents could believe he scored a perfect 36 on the ACT.
Michael Petrany took the college entrance test in June, when he was 15, and he was one of four West Virginia students to accomplish a perfect score, the second Huntington resident in the past year.
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:37 AM
 
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Nonsense. The people of NJ are unwilling to pay the real cost of educating their childern. Let them try doing it by themselves as well as the public schools. Home schooling only produces uneducated ideologs with few social skills.

Besides why should being a teacher require a vow of poverty? Being a lawyers does not and IMHO teachers are much more value to society than lawyers.
Home schooling has been discussed many times here. And each time your statement about home schooled children has been debunked.

To follow your reasoning about pay. How much do you value you and your families lives? By your reasoning the guy who does the brakes on your car should be paid much more than a teacher or a lawyer. After all you put you and your families at risk every time the drive the car. How much is your lives worth? How much do you pay him?
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Nonsense. The people of NJ are unwilling to pay the real cost of educating their childern. Let them try doing it by themselves as well as the public schools. Home schooling only produces uneducated ideologs with few social skills.

Besides why should being a teacher require a vow of poverty? Being a lawyers does not and IMHO teachers are much more value to society than lawyers.
How much more money should they throw at the system?

A "vow of poverty"? Have you researched their benefits, pay, pensions? Teachers in NJ are some of the highest paid in the nation (#4). They adamantly refused to curtail their unreasonable greed at a time of fiscal disaster and THEN they tried to use the "poor children" to politicize the very much needed cuts.

We NEED more Gov Christys across the nation.

This is a wonderful repudiation of the greed and thug tactics of the union.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...WkxpAD9F6GDB00

Read some of the thuggish tactics and over the top rhetoric from the union and its supporters.

See, what I've always said: What the Left accuses the Right of doing, they themselves are guilty of ten-fold.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It's good to see taxpayers finally waking up to the fact that goverment employees are getting pay and benefits out of proportion what they do. Hopefully this catches on.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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It's good to see taxpayers finally waking up to the fact that goverment employees are getting pay and benefits out of proportion what they do. Hopefully this catches on.
Tenure is just amazing. How many people get a guaranteed contract that gives you a job for life? AT THE TAXPAYERS EXPENSE none the less!
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Default Law breaking Students protest

These protestors are traitors ! Right Tea party detractors?

Kids walking out of class protesting Government?

Teaneck students walk out to protest N.J. school budget defeat | - NJ.com
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:04 AM
 
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Simplify too much? Christie is cutting the state help by 800 million. So towns are not only asking for tax increases but also for program cuts. It will pass once they take back the program cuts.
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:10 AM
 
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Broad general statements like this are usually false. Most homeschooled children are so well educated that they enter college with high SAT scores. In many areas, the homeschooled children participate in EC activities at public schools. Throwing more money at education has not produced better results, only richer teacher's unions.
True, just look at California.

Cali, are you listening to this?
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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These protestors are traitors ! Right Tea party detractors?

Kids walking out of class protesting Government?

Teaneck students walk out to protest N.J. school budget defeat | - NJ.com
Well, then, they should get their little buttskis out to work and start paying taxes!
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Old 04-21-2010, 12:05 PM
 
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This is a crying a** shame in a way. I recall that Southern NJ was one of the best places to become educated as a kid (some of their public schools can compete with private schools in the south), and that towns in SNJ were among the best to raise a family. Low crime, high quality public education, etc. You paid for it big time in taxes, but you got most of your money's worth.

But, that was at least 10 years ago. Taxes have increased and the financial burden is overwhelming. Looks like something has to give and if it means cutting huge amounts of fat in the union, so be it.
Well, I agree with your first few statements, anyway. I went to school in Northern Jersey, Sparta Township, to be specific. People regard that area as one of the best places to raise a family too. And it is. Clean lakes, beautiful landscape (it ain't called the Garden State for nothin"), you can still sleep with your doors unlocked, and some of the best schools in the nation. It's not cheap to live there, yes taxes are high, but the benefits are tangible and hard to put a monetary value on. The central allure of parts of Jersey like this, are it's schools. If the quality of education is diminished, what sets these communities apart will not continue. It is a shame.

From cuts in sports, the arts and after school programs, discussions of 4 day school weeks, lack of state of the art materials and now this focus on greedy teachers it's evident how much (or how little) education is valued by a surprising percentage of society today.
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