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Old 09-16-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I'd like to see how s/he establishes that s/he has standing in such a case. Haven't all of the birther cases to date been thrown out for lack of standing?
Not all of them. But most of them, yes. At least four have actually been decided on the merits. Birthers lost all of those too.

Of course the primary reason most have gotten tossed on standing is because they have all been filed as civil cases. Had any of them been a criminal case, standing would not have even been an issue.

The Catch-22 for Birthers is that for a criminal indictment you actually need to have evidence of a crime. And of course... they have no evidence for any of their accusations, let alone the criminal ones.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Interesting. I haven't been keeping up on the Orly Opera, so I had no idea. Wonder if they will/can do it.
They're trying. Perennial nutcase and attempted kidnapper of Mormon prophets Cody Judy has decided to run for President specifically for this purpose. We'll see how that works out.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Harvard University wanted him gone. Obama's father, like his Uncle and Aunt was an illegal alien.
Obama's father was never an illegal alien.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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They're trying. Perennial nutcase and attempted kidnapper of Mormon prophets Cody Judy has decided to run for President specifically for this purpose. We'll see how that works out.
Well, nuts of a feather ...
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Old 09-16-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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They're trying. Perennial nutcase and attempted kidnapper of Mormon prophets Cody Judy has decided to run for President specifically for this purpose. We'll see how that works out.

i'd never heard of judy so i had to look him up. wow.

he plans on running on the democratic ticket to challenge obama's eligibility. since he won't get the DNC nomination i doubt he could be considered an official candidate for POTUS and therefor would lack the standing needed for a civil lawsuit against the president. it seems that the smarter option would be to try and get in on one of the smaller party's ticket ( i'm curious what exactly is needed to get a party/candidate on the ballot ).


if anyone is interested in the bizarre check out judy's video

Cody Robert Judy 4Pres 2012 Official Intro (http://www.codyjudy.us/cody%20robert%20judy%20for%20u.s.%20president%2020 12%20intro.htm - broken link)

in particular check out between the 4:00 and 5:20 mark. the guy dubs in bad laugh tracks and applause over his rant. it's disturbing and fascinating all at the same time.
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Obama's father was never an illegal alien.
Notes from the Immigration and Naturalization Service state he was an illegal alien. He did not depart after officials refused to extend his visa. This made him an illegal alien.

The spurious born President of the United States father was an illegal alien, like his drunk driving uncle and living off the taxpayers aunt.

Investigate the social security number.

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Old 09-16-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Notes from the Immigration and Naturalization Service state he was an illegal alien.
This is a lie. There are no notes for the INS that even hint at such a status.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Someone apparently with 'insider knowledge' claims that the SSA examiner identified Obama junior II as a 'permanent legal resident'.

The "insider" stated Obama's... II PLR code is marked with a “Y”...a permanent legal resident.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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This is a lie. There are no notes for the INS that even hint at such a status.

Oh really...


"Documents show that Obama, Sr. was denied an extension on his student visa in July, 1964, in part because Harvard University, where Obama, Sr., was a Ph.D. candidate, sought his removal.

"Obama Sr. eventually left the United States willingly after becoming an illegal alien for remaining in the country past the expiration of his visa."

EXCLUSIVE: Dad’s Immigration File Offers More Evidence Of Obama’s Birthplace | AZ-Independent
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Someone apparently with 'insider knowledge' claims......
like tim adams?


so where can we see this insider's claim?
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