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Old 09-14-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Minor v Happersett
Was a suffrage case, not a citizenship case. Virginia Minor's citizenship was conceded up front, and never an issue in front of the court.

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"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.

These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
The part you dishonestly left out again:

"Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts."

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Chief Justice Waite defines natural-born citizens.....born to citizen parents...he did not say born to citizen parents in France.
And in Wong Kim Ark, Justice Gray quoted that exact section to prove that his court did not believe that the children of aliens were not citizens.

It sucks to be a Birther.
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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no. common knowledge long before the 2008 campaign. yet not a single congressman, judge, law professor or constitutional scholar stated then or now that obama was ineligible because of WKA or minor v happersett.
Were Wong Kim Ark's parents permanent residents at his birth?
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
Was a suffrage case, not a citizenship case. Virginia Minor's citizenship was conceded up front, and never an issue in front of the court.



The part you dishonestly left out again:

"Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts."


And in Wong Kim Ark, Justice Gray quoted that exact section to prove that his court did not believe that the children of aliens were not citizens.

It sucks to be a Birther.
Again..you are misreading what the court is saying. It is a pattern with you in this forum.

It sucks to be a licentious Obot.
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Were Wong Kim Ark's parents permanent residents at his birth?
Was Wong Kim Ark born on US soil?
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Old 09-14-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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To the readers of this thread...Wong Kim Arks parents were permanent residents at his birth, Obama's father was not a permanent resident.

Obots do not want this known. Wong Kim Ark was affirmed a citizen because his parents were permanent residents.

It is clearly seen in the ruling.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Obama's website AttackWatch.com states he is an American citizen.

The Constitution requires a President to be a natural born Citizen. His own website tells us he is not qualified.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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Justice Gray:

Of course, it suits your purpose to misquote the findings and judgment of Wong Kim Ark. It doesn't support your delusions.

Last edited by Arus; 09-14-2011 at 08:31 PM..
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Quite honestly, at this time, it's just beating a dead horse.

THe people who matter know that Obama is a citizen.

Only idiots and crazy people think otherwise, and their opinion doesn't matter.
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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In time we will find out that this man is a complete fraud and pulled off one of the biggest fraud on the American people ever.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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In time we will find out that this man is a complete fraud and pulled off one of the biggest fraud on the American people ever.
that's nice but what evidence do you have now that obama is ineligible ( or were you referring to a SS# with a CT prefix as "the biggest fraud" )?
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