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Old 05-18-2010, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sounds good to me. Let Texas do things their way, but don't let them impose their values on states that don't agree with their version of history.
Texas isn't even trying. The libs get upset every time Texas reviews their books for TEXAS public schools.

Why isn't California doing the same with their books ? Why do we only hear about Texas ? Maybe due to publishers pushing the Texas books on other states ? Maybe the other states rolling over and buying them ?
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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Actually the answer is easy. They are! Texas is the second largest consumer of textbooks. Guess who is the first?
Overall perhaps but apparently the publishers of these particular history books consider Texas a better customer for some reason.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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It's not, but you can have your opinion.

Texas doesn't determine books for the entire country.
Texas votes on books for Texas.

If your state has an issue then it's with the publishing companies that want to push Texas books on your state.
That is exactly what California is doing. If book publishers decide to include fairy tales to satisfy fundamentalist Christians than those textbooks will not be purchased in California. We will see what state prevails. But if I lived in Texas I would be ashamed & embarrassed!
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That is exactly what California is doing. If book publishers decide to include fairy tales to satisfy fundamentalist Christians than those textbooks will not be purchased in California. We will see what state prevails. But if I lived in Texas I would be ashamed & embarrassed!
From the OP's link:

"It's an urban myth, especially in this digital age we live in, when content can be tailored and customized for individual states and school districts," said Jay Diskey, executive director of the schools division of the Association of American Publishers.

Diskey, whose group has not taken a position on SB1451, said the California Board of Education's existing review process is so rigorous that the state "may be the last place that would end up with the Texas curriculum."
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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"It's an urban myth, especially in this digital age we live in, when content can be tailored and customized for individual states and school districts," said Jay Diskey, executive director of the schools division of the Association of American Publishers.

Diskey, whose group has not taken a position on SB1451, said the California Board of Education's existing review process is so rigorous that the state "may be the last place that would end up with the Texas curriculum."
Yes, didn't the article say that textbook review in California would automatically reject books that include anti-scientific material or evangelical pressure? So the legislation is probably not even necessary. The issue facing book publishers is what material they will incorporate or reject.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, didn't the article say that textbook review in California would automatically reject books that include anti-scientific material or evangelical pressure? So the legislation is probably not even necessary. The issue facing book publishers is what material they will incorporate or reject.
So Texas reviews various textbooks every year. Why this year with the history books.

Why not last year when everyone thought Texas science books were removing evolution and putting in creationism ?
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:48 AM
 
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That would be too hard of a question for their constituents to ask.
Instead they rally round the gov't to "block" another state's book choice.
Not blocking anything just making sure that the nonsensical Texas version of history doesn't infect California.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:13 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Is it really so difficult to have a group of professional historians decide what the history of your young country really looked like? History is a science, not some bubblegum discipline such as arts or religion. I mean, we are not talking about the stone age, but just a few centuries, there are written documents and everything.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is just grandstanding.

California has never used the Texas textbooks.

California has their own text books. Where history starts at 1877 and the US Constitution is never mentioned.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not blocking anything just making sure that the nonsensical Texas version of history doesn't infect California.
According to the article California doesn't even need that bill because their current process is more rigerous than Texas.

So just WHAT is the issue that California thinks they are addressing besides making a public outrage ?
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