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Old 05-31-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Barak: Flotilla organizers to blame



Israel has every right to board ships headed for gaza in order to ascertain if they have weapons headed to terrorists hands.
Exactly what did the Flotilla do that makes them responsible? Does Israel ever take responsibility for their violence?

Israel reminds me of an abuser who always blames the victim!
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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It was planned. The Israelis fell into a trap.
Five of the six boats had true civilkians on board. Those boats were boarded peaceably by Israel without incident. The sixth ship however, had a large group of Islamic radicals armed with various weapons including three handguns. As the Israeli naval commando descended the ladder onto the deck he was attacked. One of the commandos was set upon by the mob and thrown to the lower deck. The first shots were fired by the mob and hit the Israelis. The Israelis responded by defending themselves.

Israel has a right to inspect cargo to verify that weapons are not being delivered to the Hamas terrorists. What happened here is that the naval commandos were outfoxed and unprepared for the plotters on that sixth ship. Hamas could not be more pleased with what happened.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:39 AM
 
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Sorry, but Israel told the flotilla to turn back. They didn't listen. The soldiers weren't descending on the ship to kill anyone, UNTIL the "peaceful" passengers attacked them with knives, clubs, bats and iron bars...oh, and stun grenades and firebombs.
Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters. They could tell the boats to turn back until they were blue in the face, but until they enter Israeli waters, they have absolutely no jurisdiction at all.

The Israeli boarding of this boat was a criminal act, no different than that of Somali Pirates. They forced entry onto a foreign boat in international waters. Whatever the people on that boat did or didn't do was completely justified as they were hi jacked and murdered.

And again, as I said in the other thread, Israeli officials have admitted that there was no firearms on board except the ones brought on board by Israeli forces.

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Yeah sure, "peaceful flotilla" where the people on board carry small arms and heavy weapons. Why not send "aid" thru the international red cross?
As for the weapons, look above, even Israeli officials admit there was none.

Regarding the aid shipment: International red cross are routinely denied access into the gaza strip, as is Medicines sans frontieres (Doctors without borders), so sending aid through those organizations does nothing.

According to Turkish customs, the boat contained no illegal contraband nor weapons, only medical, building and schoolbooks etc.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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If that same group were coming towards the "jersey shore" I would hope our coast guard would try to turn them back.
The secret is out Palestinians danced for JOY on 911 . They are the enemy of good people .
I think you are confused. As I recall, that NJ Sheriff arrested 5 dancing Israeli Mossad agents filming 911 as it happened in real time (proving they had advanced knowledge, and perhaps complicity in the attack).
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It was planned. The Israelis fell into a trap.
Five of the six boats had true civilkians on board. Those boats were boarded peaceably by Israel without incident. The sixth ship however, had a large group of Islamic radicals armed with various weapons including three handguns. As the Israeli naval commando descended the ladder onto the deck he was attacked. One of the commandos was set upon by the mob and thrown to the lower deck. The first shots were fired by the mob and hit the Israelis. The Israelis responded by defending themselves.

Israel has a right to inspect cargo to verify that weapons are not being delivered to the Hamas terrorists. What happened here is that the naval commandos were outfoxed and unprepared for the plotters on that sixth ship. Hamas could not be more pleased with what happened.
Lamontnow, I wondered when you would show up as the on-call pro-Israeli blogger.

BTW, if it were a "trap", wouldn't the Islamic radicals have better weapons than three handguns ready?
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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It was planned. The Israelis fell into a trap.
Five of the six boats had true civilkians on board. Those boats were boarded peaceably by Israel without incident. The sixth ship however, had a large group of Islamic radicals armed with various weapons including three handguns. As the Israeli naval commando descended the ladder onto the deck he was attacked. One of the commandos was set upon by the mob and thrown to the lower deck. The first shots were fired by the mob and hit the Israelis. The Israelis responded by defending themselves.

Israel has a right to inspect cargo to verify that weapons are not being delivered to the Hamas terrorists. What happened here is that the naval commandos were outfoxed and unprepared for the plotters on that sixth ship. Hamas could not be more pleased with what happened.
Nice propaganda! So that's the story huh?

How many IDF died when the "armed" humanitarian protestors attacked them?

[ Whatever B.S. the IDF puts out these apologists will spread it ]
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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Israel performed the same type of attack on former U.S. Representative Cynthia Mckinney and her humanitarian aid flotilla. They tried to kill them too.


YouTube - Cynthia McKinney: Gaza Relief Boat Attacked By Israeli Military

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Old 05-31-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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Israel has a right to inspect cargo to verify that weapons are not being delivered to the Hamas terrorists.
No, in international waters they don't have the right.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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LoL, gotta love propaganda. The blockade is there to keep boats out, running the blockade will get you boarded. That's the definition of the term. To then attack the boarders with "Clubs, knives, firebombs and pistols" with the intent to harm is not peaceful, and what are trained soldiers going to do...Hit you with a rubber chicken?

They have boarded civilian vessels before without any loss or problem, when people just stop. The soldiers have families and lives as well, so when some one is trying to f'ing kill them...they shot back. They attempted to use non lethal means, till people started trying to kill them.

They got their intent, to make a big incident.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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LoL, gotta love propaganda. The blockade is there to keep boats out, running the blockade will get you boarded. That's the definition of the term. To then attack the boarders with "Clubs, knives, firebombs and pistols" with the intent to harm is not peaceful, and what are trained soldiers going to do...Hit you with a rubber chicken?

They have boarded civilian vessels before without any loss or problem, when people just stop. The soldiers have families and lives as well, so when some one is trying to f'ing kill them...they shot back. They attempted to use non lethal means, till people started trying to kill them.

They got their intent, to make a big incident.
Firebombs and pistols....LOL

How many IDF were killed when the trap was sprung?....LOL

Straight from the IDF propaganda Minister to your mouth.
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