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It's very likely that the guy was autistic and could not communicate. When people can not communicate the chances are higher that they'll react negatively in some kind of way. This however is an extreme example.
Why can't people just accept the fact the kid was off his rocker and has been for a very long time?
What "explanation" are you looking for? His asperger's had nothing to do with it. He was just a deranged nutcase and everyone knew about it. The mother pulled him out of school, because she didn't like the "direction" the school wanted to take with him. Whatever that means.
Does anyone else find it strange that NO ONE has a decent and clear pic of this woman? They keep showing the same one over and over. I still can't figure out what she looks like, because it's so hazy.
His father gave the ex $200,000 a month to take care of him. His father KNOWS his son was a major danger to the world and so does his brother. Everybody is playing "stupid" like they don't know why or "OMG! How could this happen?"
They said the same thing about the Batman shooter. He came from a "good" family, so he must have "mental issues". No way an "all american" young man from a "fine" home could do such a thing. Why the hell NOT?
Is this behavior only relegated to people of lower economic and educational circumstances?
You never read about poor kids shooting up their classmates and teachers and by right, they SHOULD be the ones miserable enough to do it, but they're not. It's the kids from the "nice homes" that are mass killing everyone.
Let's also not forget the asian guy that shot up his university either. Another loner crazy that's been getting all types of sympathy too.
And the crazy Arizona fool whose had mental issues for the longest time too.
What I'd like to know is what is going on within the "fine upstanding" families of America who are breeding these psycho monsters?
Can anyone tell me?
I believe he was schizophrenic and his symptoms got much worse when he was in his mid-teens. Hense his mother taking him out of school and pretty much nobody seeing him for the past 2 years.
She was getting over $200,000 per year (not month as previously posted) from her ex. The marriage probably deteriorated after they had to start dealing with Adam's mental health issues. The father had enough money to pay his ex to take care of him so he bolted. It seems both dad and brother got away as fast as they could. Definitely something more going on here. Having a house full of guns and a mentally disturbed son, then leaving him alone for days at a time. Things aren't adding up here.
This is the psychology forum. People who are into psychology like to dig deeper than that.
Why? What exactly are you trying to figure out?
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hat was her alimony, not child support.
No, it was a combination of BOTH. The father KNEW this kid was off. The fact that there are news reports of him asking "why?" like everyone else is so phoney. He knows WHY.
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You're contradicting yourself here. First you say "the kid must be off his rocker" and then you are sarcastic about people saying someone has mental issues.
Not contradicting myself, because he IS crazy and EVIL. It's always a few weeks of "How can we make sure this never happens again?", then a whole bunch of make "stricter gun laws" and all of this other nonsense.
Well, how about MORE access to MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES, even if it means being paid for on taxpayer dime?
Also, AGAIN, why are these mass serial killer crazies being born to the "fine upstanding households"?
These are kids who should want for nothing and have the whole world handed to them, but yet they're deranged sociopaths.
With the high crime and gang activity in America's worst neighborhoods - Los Angeles and Chicago - how come THOSE kids aren't shooting up schools en masse like their upper crust counterparts living in the "nice" section of town?
THESE are the questions that really need to be answered.
It's very likely that the guy was autistic and could not communicate. When people can not communicate the chances are higher that they'll react negatively in some kind of way. This however is an extreme example.
The police are unable to find anyone to corroborate the diagnosis that he was either autistic or suffering from aspergers, even the teachers aren't saying anything.
The police are unable to find anyone to corroborate the diagnosis that he was either autistic or suffering from aspergers, even the teachers aren't saying anything.
His own father hasn't even confirmed this.
Teachers are prohibited from corroborating the diagnosis via privacy laws. The father doesn't have to tell anyone anything. When the police obtain his medical and mental health records (which will require a court order), they won't share what they find for months and months, if ever. When the court ordered medical records to be released to the police for the Western Psych shooter, the hospital insisted that the police keep what the information private. The public only learned he was schizophrenic because his parents told the media. So don't think that lack of information is proof that something doesn't exist.
Violent video games are designed by and marketed to white middle to upper class males. Rape and gun and stabbings are popular themes. WHY?
I don't know. I can't believe these horrible rape and gore games are being sold to young impressionable minds and that the PARENTS find NOTHING wrong with them. It's sick. Plain and simple. It must be something in the male psyche that gets off on it, because I know of not too many young girls that play these games.
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Many times it takes a balance of medical teams to evaluate a person's medical/ mental health. Neurology plays a big part in what goes on, so does diet, excercise, as well as mental health. A balanced approach to all-over health is important. That seems to be missing in the Lanza family.
The father isn't going to speak about it probably for legal reasons. There are reports that the mother had a "survivalist" mentality. I don't care what anyone says here, but you cannot tell me she had NO IDEA her son was a major nutcase that was a danger to himself and the rest of the world. She has been called to the school numerous times over the years to "handle" his "outbursts". He also had a "special" teacher or counselor watch over him, because he had "issues".
She homeschooled him because the school told her they probably wanted to send him away to a mental health facility or a school with personnel TRAINED to deal with his unmanageable outbursts.
The FATHER has questions to answer. 20 little babies dead all because of his devil spawn.
Teachers are prohibited from corroborating the diagnosis via privacy laws. The father doesn't have to tell anyone anything. When the police obtain his medical and mental health records (which will require a court order), they won't share what they find for months and months, if ever. When the court ordered medical records to be released to the police for the Western Psych shooter, the hospital insisted that the police keep what the information private. The public only learned he was schizophrenic because his parents told the media. So don't think that lack of information is proof that something doesn't exist.
Twenty plus children are dead. Someone IS going to have to answer as to WHY.
I hope all of those families sue the pants off the father.
I believe he was schizophrenic and his symptoms got much worse when he was in his mid-teens. Hense his mother taking him out of school and pretty much nobody seeing him for the past 2 years.
There is medication to help control the voices in his head. If he truly was a skitzo, then his MOTHER is more to blame than anyone else behind the monster she created. Why on earth did have all those weapons in the home?
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She was getting over $200,000 per year (not month as previously posted) from her ex. The marriage probably deteriorated after they had to start dealing with Adam's mental health issues. The father had enough money to pay his ex to take care of him so he bolted. It seems both dad and brother got away as fast as they could. Definitely something more going on here. Having a house full of guns and a mentally disturbed son, then leaving him alone for days at a time. Things aren't adding up here.
That's why I say the father knows MORE than he's letting on and his fake "Why?" on how this could happen is falling on deaf ears as far as I'm concerned. He needs to be held to task for this. It's just as much his fault as hers. Their son should have been put on a mandatory hold. These people are RICH. They can afford the private mental health facilities that the regular joe cannot.
She homeschooled him because the school told her they probably wanted to send him away to a mental health facility or a school with personnel TRAINED to deal with his unmanageable outbursts.
You're making assumptions.
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The FATHER has questions to answer. 20 little babies dead all because of his devil spawn.
I hope all of those families sue the pants off the father.
Sure they can try to sue the father, but they won't win. The father has no civil liability. The shooter was a legal adult. The parents separated in 2001, and the mother had full custody. That's almost 13 years the mother had full authority over all parenting decisions. The father hadn't seen him since 2010. The person who is legally responsible is the mother. They can sue her estate.
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Twenty plus children are dead. Someone IS going to have to answer as to WHY.
Don't expect details from medical and mental health records. People died in the Western Psych shooting too.
I've read that Lanza seemed very introverted and scared of people. The newspaper story quoted sources as saying when he was walking in the school halls, if someone came toward him from the opposite direction, he would turn around and go the other way. If he was, in fact, afraid of adults and people his own age, perhaps little children seemed less of a threat to him and he wasn't as afraid of killing them as he would have been with older children.
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