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Mental illness does not play favourites. Rich, poor, great or terrible upbringing, it targets everyone alike. Genetics is one factor but sometimes it seems a combination of other factors.
No, the question I asked was WHY are the majority of these mass shootings coming from UPPER CLASS HOMES and NOT THE POOR ONES?
By right, people born and raised in misery in this country should be shooting up everyone in their path, but they're not.
What makes kids from the "good homes" turn into deranged, psycho misfit killers??
So far none of the kids have come from poor or lower income homes.
I guess parents and teachers should be more concerned with "Chad" from the beautiful mansion in the hills before worrying about the kids from the 'wrong side of the tracks' shouldn't they?
I believe that the stigma, the cost of healthcare and the intolerance of any form of weakness here (particularly in relation to males) is just as much a part of the problem as the guns themselves. That's why to reduce the risk of future mass shootings, both issues need to be addressed, though I don't see enough "change" happening due to the powerful gun and pro-"for profit" healthcare lobbies here.
Those are good articles and to quote from one:
"untreated mental illness typically results in quiet suffering, despair and isolation, not violence. "Linking it to the Newtown, Connecticut, shootings actually increases prejudice and discrimination,.... "And in the end that will keep people from seeking services that they need."
You only need to look at the politics forums on CD to see people referring to the crazies, psychos, and nutcases that should be on national registries etc. But most mentally ill people are not violent. It is all the suffering that mental illness is associated with that should be of concern to us. And further stigmatizing mental illness by associating it with violence is not going to help.
No, the question I asked was WHY are the majority of these mass shootings coming from UPPER CLASS HOMES and NOT THE POOR ONES?
By right, people born and raised in misery in this country should be shooting up everyone in their path, but they're not.
What makes kids from the "good homes" turn into deranged, psycho misfit killers??
So far none of the kids have come from poor or lower income homes.
I guess parents and teachers should be more concerned with "Chad" from the beautiful mansion in the hills before worrying about the kids from the 'wrong side of the tracks' shouldn't they?
You're including college shootings too. Colleges tend to have more wealthy people.
The impoverished shooters probably drop out of school and don't target schools.
Outside of school shootings, you find mass killers with impoverished backgrounds such as the Beltway Sniper, or shootings at McDonalds, etc.
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No, the question I asked was WHY are the majority of these mass shootings coming from UPPER CLASS HOMES and NOT THE POOR ONES?
By right, people born and raised in misery in this country should be shooting up everyone in their path, but they're not.
What makes kids from the "good homes" turn into deranged, psycho misfit killers??
So far none of the kids have come from poor or lower income homes.
I guess parents and teachers should be more concerned with "Chad" from the beautiful mansion in the hills before worrying about the kids from the 'wrong side of the tracks' shouldn't they?
Is that true though? Have you looked at every mass shooting in American history and come to that conclusion? I'd highly question the 'upper class.'
If you mean 'middle class', well, most Americans are middle class, so it would make statistical sense.
Most of the recent mass murder "situations" have mind altering drugs involved, legally prescribed drugs. Nobody cares to study connections. Mind alteration is essential component of "The Brave New World", it's not something to doubt and criticize in the media. Let's ban guns instead.
Is that true though? Have you looked at every mass shooting in American history and come to that conclusion? I'd highly question the 'upper class.'
If you mean 'middle class', well, most Americans are middle class, so it would make statistical sense.
Colombine killers, Batman shooter, Sandyhook savage and the korean college killer were "upper" middle class YOUNG people.
I'm wondering why kids who have everything and really nothing to complain about would feel the need to take out multiple people, then themselves. They basically get whatever they ask for, do not ever have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and have the latest of whatever is on the market.
Most of the recent mass murder "situations" have mind altering drugs involved, legally prescribed drugs. Nobody cares to study connections. Mind alteration is essential component of "The Brave New World", it's not something to doubt and criticize in the media. Let's ban guns instead.
This sounds more plausible, especially if they've been on them for several years.
I read that prescription drugs is a major problem in well to do suburbia. For some reason, the women and men need them to "cope" with life. "Coping" with life must be "rich people problems", because if you're rich and never have to worry about anything financially, then what's the problem?
I should be the one on prescription meds to help ME "cope" with my situation.
Colombine killers, Batman shooter, Sandyhook savage and the korean college killer were "upper" middle class YOUNG people.
What about the other hundred shooters? What were their backgrounds?
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Colombine I'm wondering why kids who have everything and really nothing to complain about would feel the need to take out multiple people, then themselves. They basically get whatever they ask for, do not ever have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and have the latest of whatever is on the market.
What the hell are they so angry about?
People with money suffer too. I'm continually amazed by people who think that money makes life better. It doesn't.
This sounds more plausible, especially if they've been on them for several years.
I read that prescription drugs is a major problem in well to do suburbia. For some reason, the women and men need them to "cope" with life. "Coping" with life must be "rich people problems", because if you're rich and never have to worry about anything financially, then what's the problem?
I should be the one on prescription meds to help ME "cope" with my situation.
RememberMee means drugs prescribed for mental illness, not recreational prescription drugs. Wealthy children tend to receive mental health services more than poor children because wealthy parents can afford them. The wrong medication or the wrong dosage can tip people over the edge. So, getting more mental health treatment might not be the answer since mental health treatment seems to be causing these shootings. Instead of granting more access to mental health services, the government should do something to ensure that the mental health profession improves their performance record.
You seem to have a BIG problem with wealth. All of your current problems would become magnified if you became wealthy. Money doesn't make life better. If you're a miserable and negative person poor, you'll be miserable and negative rich too.
You have a major hang-up with Italians. What are YOU?
There was nothing Italian about Adam Lanza, except a last name. In fact, had he been raised in a more interwoven traditional Italian family of yesteryear, the larger support system could have taken some of the edge off, while that's not a guarantee.
His mother, Nancy Lanza, was a WASP, from seeing her picture. She spent some time as a financial adviser or broker for John Hancock securities in Boston who then did the suburban thing in rural Connecticut. She turned her attention to being a homemaker after her divorce from Peter Lanza.
Peter Lanza is an executive of sorts, and lived elsewhere. It is unlikely that he was ever a New York area type of "Guido" who hung around Bensonhurst with his shirt open and a crucifix on a chain.
After the mall shooting during the same week in the West, I have not "educated" myself as to the details of this crime.
Most of the people who have done this sort of thing have historically been WASPs, by the way.
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