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"Aspiring model" and the type of poses and inane comments I saw on her YouTube page. Someone can look at her Facebook page; it's probably similar there. Elliot Rodger called her out as nasty to him when they were teens - there's no reason to think he made that up, and sadly most people don't change much (for example, narcissism just manifests more with more subtlety among the married with kids). In terms of the killing spree, the problem wasn't just him - it was the stupidity and insensitivity of many individuals and entities. Much of what's wrong in the modern world is involved in this case, and that is why it is a huge topic.
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"Aspiring model" and the type of poses and inane comments I saw on her YouTube page. Someone can look at her Facebook page; it's probably similar there. Elliot Rodger called her out as nasty to him when they were teens - there's no reason to think he made that up, and sadly most people don't change much (for example, narcissism just manifests more with more subtlety among the married with kids). In terms of the killing spree, the problem wasn't just him - it was the stupidity and insensitivity of many individuals and entities. Much of what's wrong in the modern world is involved in this case, and that is why it is a huge topic.
No--it was just him and his mental illness.
People get treated like crap day and night by other people for millions of reasons and are not driven to murder. Most people shrug it off or even laugh about it. Even if they get mad about it, it never occurs to them to kill someone else. I know I was a late bloomer and "suffered" the indignity of living with a beautiful roommate in college who got no end of attention from men. It didn't drive me to murder.
Should everyone just be nicer to each other? Of course. But to lay any part of the blame for what Rodger did at anyone else's feet is ridiculous.
Another thing: the women who blew him off more than likely got a weird vibe off him--like maybe he was capable of violence? People are animals and we have senses and instincts about people. There was probably something that made the hairs on the back of their neck stand up.
I TELL my daughter to listen to her instincts and that she doesn't even have go be polite to anyone who gives her the creeps. I don't want her feeling sorry for someone and ending up dead in the back of a van.
Pollina is no different than countless millions of other young women on Facebook/Youtube. What you're seeing is a young woman full of life and having fun.
She graduated college with a degree in clinical psychology-so no slouch unlike the shooter who was always dropping classes. Whatever Pollina was doing on Facebook,etc. she kept her mind on the prize- the college degree.
And what do you mean she was hostile to those not of her level? You don't know her personally, stop making things up. I saw one photo of her with a very average looking (to me) white guy on one side of her and a black guy on the other. Maybe she's a very equitable young woman.
What Rodger couldn't abide, nor some of the people posting on this thread, is the easy casualness some people have with other people. Some people know how to have fun, others hate them for that.
And for millionth time, Elliot Rodger is 100% responsible for what he did, no one else.
Pollina is no different than countless millions of other young women on Facebook/Youtube. What you're seeing is a young woman full of life and having fun.
She graduated college with a degree in clinical psychology-so no slouch unlike the shooter who was always dropping classes. Whatever Pollina was doing on Facebook,etc. she kept her mind on the prize- the college degree.
And what do you mean she was hostile to those not of her level? You don't know her personally, stop making things up. I saw one photo of her with a very average looking (to me) white guy on one side of her and a black guy on the other. Maybe she's a very equitable young woman.
What Rodger couldn't abide, nor some of the people posting on this thread, is the easy casualness some people have with other people. Some people know how to have fun, others hate them for that.
And for millionth time, Elliot Rodger is 100% responsible for what he did, no one else.
Of course. Everyone is not the same. Pollina may represent what some people don't like, and even if she is an aspiring model that likes clubbing, she hasn't written a manifesto or declared herself a god. Sorry if she annoys people, but then they don't have to look at her or seek out her youtube page.
This Elliot character accused plenty of people of being mean to him when in fact people witnessed HE was the instigator. Even if some girls were nasty to him, so what? He deserved to be put in his place which no one was apparently doing except for his stepmother. He had already assaulted people for no reason, shooting strangers in a park with a super soaker because they were happy, and trying to push women off a ledge (unsuccessfully and he fell off the ledge breaking his ankle). Some "brutes" came to the aid of the women he was trying to hurt.
That only proves she's smart and has perseverance. It does not mean she is a good person. Many psychology professionals are lousy, self-absorbed people. Anyway, it's not about what he did. It is about the disdain for isolated young men and how they might implode, as in becoming video game or porn addicts or passively killing themselves through substance abuse. Elliot Rodger differed, probably from weird inborn wiring, in that his invisibility caused him to go off in a very violent way.
This, we've already seen this from one other poster in this thread. The mentality that you are worthless if you haven't gotten laid. It doesn't matter what else is going on in your life. It doesn't matter what kind of person you are. If you are a virgin you might as well kill yourself. This type of mentality is more damaging then anything else. I'm pretty sure this guy caught hell from his roommate for the same reason. Not saying that it's an excuse for his actions. It certainly is not but it would help if some people grow up and realize that being an adult virgin is not the worse thing in the world. You have to wonder if such people have faced real problems in life and dealt with real scumbags out there.
I agree. It is a sad commentary on our society that for so many one's worth as a person is determined by how much sex they have. Not only that but apparently a person is a life failure if they are a virgin while still in high school. At what age are we now going to start shaming people if they aren't paired up? Is it 10, 9, 8 year olds?
I agree. It is a sad commentary on our society that for so many one's worth as a person is determined by how much sex they have. Not only that but apparently a person is a life failure if they are a virgin while still in high school. At what age are we now going to start shaming people if they aren't paired up? Is it 10, 9, 8 year olds?
WHO is saying this? Where do you hear this nonsense? It's not even anyone's business so how would they know unless you broadcast what you are doing or have done or not done sexually.
WHO is saying this? Where do you hear this nonsense? It's not even anyone's business so how would they know unless you broadcast what you are doing or have done or not done sexually.
All you have to do is look at movies, music videos and if nothing else watch a Miley Cyrus video. Sex is all young people are seeing unless the parents step up and monitor what their kids are exposed to.
I wish he hadn't killed people. If he'd done everything the same but merely stormed and terrorized a sorority and maybe offed himself at the end, it would still be a huge story and the social implications would be easier to discuss. It's too easy to dismiss murderers.
WHO is saying this? Where do you hear this nonsense? It's not even anyone's business so how would they know unless you broadcast what you are doing or have done or not done sexually.
Seriously???
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Originally Posted by Afternoon Napper
any adult who's a virgin obviously has something wrong with him. attracting women and having sex in the whole reason we exist on this planet, to reproduce. if you fail at that, you literally fail at life.
i'd view someone like that as highly suspect and weird, precisely the type of lunatic who'd go on a shooting rampage.
And he's not the only person with this mindset.
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