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Not advocating any type of sexual misconduct, but women have the upper hand in most situations as far as "reporting" sexual misconduct by a male.
A woman and man can date for 6-12 months, have what 99% would call "consensual" sex. Guy "cheats" on her for whatever reason, she gets really upset and vows to get a drastic revenge on him. She can cry "rape" to anyone who would listen, she is automatically assumed to be the "victim" and he is automatically assumed to be the attacker/assailant.
This happens, yes. Don't get me started on drunk/high sex. And black-out sex. And how drunk people are too incoherent to consent, yet one (usually the man) has to be coherent enough to discern it, and "alcohol is no excuse" for the guy who had what he thought was consensual sex, but she couldn't remember, so it must have been rape. There are over 170 lawsuits in progress against colleges all over the country by accused rapists who fell victim to that insanity and had their lives up-ended. I think I'll start another thread on it.
The thread title: Shouldn't women take responsibility in certain assault situations?
From the post: Don't make it easier for someone to take advantage of you. Don't put yourself in harm's way. Do they need to hear it? Probably. Because chances are pretty good that they don't live under a rock, already knew it was a bad idea and did it anyway.
Except that only 8% of rapes are by a stranger. So using this information, women need to be cautious around the men we know.
Again, I ask, at what point are we NOT doing a 'bad idea' by accepting a beverage from a man?
Clearly, the first night we know them is a no-no. What about date number 1? Two? Three? 17? At what point are we no longer deemed stupid for accepting a beverage from a man?
Not advocating any type of sexual misconduct, but women have the upper hand in most situations as far as "reporting" sexual misconduct by a male.
A woman and man can date for 6-12 months, have what 99% would call "consensual" sex. Guy "cheats" on her for whatever reason, she gets really upset and vows to get a drastic revenge on him. She can cry "rape" to anyone who would listen, she is automatically assumed to be the "victim" and he is automatically assumed to be the attacker/assailant.
Be serious. It's hard to prove forcible rape from an intruder. Women are not going around reporting boyfriends for rape willy-nilly and prosecuting them.
This happens, yes. Don't get me started on drunk/high sex. And black-out sex. And how drunk people are too incoherent to consent, yet one (usually the man) has to be coherent enough to discern it, and "alcohol is no excuse" for the guy who had what he thought was consensual sex, but she couldn't remember, so it must have been rape. There are over 170 lawsuits in progress against colleges all over the country by accused rapists who fell victim to that insanity and had their lives up-ended. I think I'll start another thread on it.
I think that is another topic and I agree that if both people are drunk, how is the man supposed to have better judgement than the woman? He's supposed to be responsible for himself and her in the same state of impairment.
The thread title: Shouldn't women take responsibility in certain assault situations?
From the post: Don't make it easier for someone to take advantage of you. Don't put yourself in harm's way. Do they need to hear it? Probably. Because chances are pretty good that they don't live under a rock, already knew it was a bad idea and did it anyway.
In this case, "harm" only exists because someone is willing to purposefully perpetrate it.
Negating any responsibility on the part of the victim.
It could all have been avoided if men LEARN NOT TO RAPE
Thats the only way its gonna be avoided.
Stop raping people
Stope victim blaming
Not rocket science, you know?
True...men should learn "NOT TO RAPE"....and that could be the only way to avoid it.
So start teaching!!!!
Course as we live in the REAL world (not some fantasy ideal world) we all know that men DO rape..
Thus women...take care, be aware, and don't trust (especially when you're drunk) a complete stranger to do what's right.......taking precautions won't always prevent a rape from happening but it's a good start to protecting yourself, and making it waaaaay less EASY..... like OP's friend did.
Being angry at someone who says women need to be cautious to protect themselves is pathetic.
You are no different than anyone who says a woman can't go out in public without an escort, can't unbare her face in public, can't bare a leg to go swimming, can't drive by herself, can't attend ANYWHERE by herself...because to do so is to invite trouble, and entices men to do bad things. And it's a sin to entice men to do bad things.
Don't presume to know me...you never will...
I ask only that women be safe, and suggest ways that they can.
You prefer to keep your head in the sand, and blame all men for your problems...that's your folly...you can't get past your anger at men to see the whole REAL picture.
True...men should learn "NOT TO RAPE"....and that could be the only way to avoid it.
So start teaching!!!!
Course as we live in the REAL world (not some fantasy ideal world) we all know that men DO rape..
Thus women...take care, be aware, and don't trust (especially when you're drunk) a complete stranger to do what's right.......taking precautions won't always prevent a rape from happening but it's a good start to protecting yourself, and making it waaaaay less EASY..... like OP's friend did.
Being angry at someone who says women need to be cautious to protect themselves is pathetic.
Again...most rapes involve known assailants, versus complete strangers.
When you say a women who was raped "should have taken care when she went out" you are NOT being a good samaritan and "caring for their safety".
You got that wrong...I would never say that to ANY woman after she's been raped. You might be that cruel, but not me.
I DO insist that they be aware and have a safe ride planned to get home.
You need to try responding to posts without the hostility that you have for anyone who just wants a women safe.
In the OP's post the woman WAS doing something dangerous.....that being drunk, and then going alone to the home of a complete stranger. That (in case you don't know) IS dangerous....believe it or not!
Again...most rapes involve known assailants, versus complete strangers.
That's true....but I'm responding to the original post and question.
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