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Old 08-24-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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Children all over the country rebelling saying formal education is colonialism.


I don't know if you're joking, but in case you aren't: find better news sources. Or better yet, stop relying on media for information. I'm talking about the specific era you referenced. Don't change the subject to "win" a point. This isn't a competition.
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:02 PM
 
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I don't know if you're joking, but in case you aren't: find better news sources. Or better yet, stop relying on media for information. I'm talking about the specific era you referenced. Don't change the subject to "win" a point. This isn't a competition.
I’m not seeking to win and I listen to practically zero media other than topics that are brought up on here. No need to get defensive. I’m sure you can find people from all eras that pursue what they see as objective truth relating to education.
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:07 PM
 
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Talking correctly is talking correctly.
Remind me how this relates to the OP?
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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So if there are white people that talk black,then that means that there are black people that "talk white"?
And Asian people that talk "white"?

What is talking "black" anyway? It is just talking "American English" IMO

Why is this racist post allowed on CD?
Don’t axe me.
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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I guess that opens up another discussion — is there a right and wrong way to speak? Does this right and wrong carry over to spelling words how one speaks? Could a child go through the entirety of their schooling spelling lik dis rite her and be gittin dim good grades?

I never said blacks talk the wrong way. Look at my second post. I said there is a way of talking that is predominately found in the black community. That doesn’t imply that all blacks talk a certain way.
You've been implying from the beginning that talking 'black' was the low class way
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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Remind me how this relates to the OP?
Are there people who know how to talk/spell correctly and possibly did so earlier in life that decided to adopt another way of speaking/spelling? If so, why?
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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Talking correctly is talking correctly. You tried to lay a trap to get me to define talking correctly as being a synonym for “talking white”. It didn’t work — move on.
No. There is no one correct way to speak in our melting pot culture. We don't even have an official language in this country. Regional accents, cultural slang, contact dialect, creole language are all common and yes, correct.

I'm not sure why you are picking on black language in this thread, when people have given countless example of other dialects that they easily slip in and out of. So why is it that white people using black dialect is so "cringy" to you as opposed to people speaking Spanglish, using a Boston accent, speaking "Valley Girl" or any of many other examples of code switching?

Are you not willing to admit that there is something about whites assimilating black culture that you find offensive?

I know my Jim-Crow-era grandparents never wanted their kids or grandkids to emulate "the blacks" in any way, shape or form. Frankly, this sounds just like that.
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:14 PM
 
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You've been implying from the beginning that talking 'black' was the low class way
I guess that brings up the question — if a way of correctly speaking/spelling objectively exists — does that make it superior? If correct doesn’t exist objectively than I guess we could say all forms of communicating are equal.
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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Are you not willing to admit that there is something about whites assimilating black culture that you find offensive?
No, because that's not what he finds offensive. Great example of "tell me you're [blank] without saying you're [blank]."
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Old 08-24-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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No. There is no one correct way to speak in our melting pot culture. We don't even have an official language in this country. Regional accents, cultural slang, contact dialect, creole language are all common and yes, correct.

I'm not sure why you are picking on black language in this thread, when people have given countless example of other dialects that they easily slip in and out of. So why is it that white people using black dialect is so "cringy" to you as opposed to people speaking Spanglish, using a Boston accent, speaking "Valley Girl" or any of many other examples of code switching?

Are you not willing to admit that there is something about whites assimilating black culture that you find offensive?

I know my Jim-Crow-era grandparents never wanted their kids or grandkids to emulate "the blacks" in any way, shape or form. Frankly, this sounds just like that.
I had a lot of English classes where grading was indeed applied based on some objective criteria for how language is used. Speaking, spelling, punctuation — the rules were mostly contained in books that the teachers taught from. A lot of it was hard to understand…for example, punctuation which I was never got all the rules for (I do learn and try to incorporate as much as possible though).

White people changing to “talking black” is simply the one I have noticed throughout my life. I’ve never argued that all people must notice that particular thing equal to me or that other examples don’t exist.

And please, just observe a conversation instead of jumping into “you’re racist” accusations.
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