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Money gives you a lot more options than being broke.
It's the Lust for money that creates the problem plus being given money and not working for what you have.
I disagree, some of the happiest people I've met were born into money, some of the most miserable people I've met have a ton of money but the job that gives them such a salary is a near constant high stress grind that keeps that money coming in. but only 2 weeks YEAR TO ACTUALLY ENJOY THAT MONEY.
I disagree, some of the happiest people I've met were born into money, some of the most miserable people I've met have a ton of money but the job that gives them such a salary is a near constant high stress grind that keeps that money coming in. but only 2 weeks YEAR TO ACTUALLY ENJOY THAT MONEY.
Most people who try to make a lot of money crash and burn from the stress. If it were that easy, then everybody would be doing it.
There is a reason they say get rich or die trying.
The amount used to be 70k for basic needs and a bit over for security. Not sure what it is now. Depends where you live. Basically a middle class existence. I think more money if it translates to less time for self and family just to have more things, is not leading to more fulfillment. The simplest lifestyles can lead to more contentment. Happiness is elusive, can change by circumstances. One has to have good health first, then good connections to others as baselines. Then there is creativity, sense of higher purpose, spirituality, community,
etc.
On one’s deathbed, are you going to think about your daughter not getting lavish sweet 16 party, horse riding lessons, didn't go to private school? The latter I can see some value in but not if it’s not a truly superior education and just breeds elitism vs a bad public school but not if one works several jobs or a job you hate to get it and don't see kids enough to instill values. On one’s deathbed you might not regret visiting more countries, or you might regret it. It depends on what is meaningful to you. Some regret not having time to pursue a different path they meant to try but they got caught up in a lifestyle that may not be that worthwhile to them but signals success in their circles. And that means a lot to some people, fitting in with their circle. They might not regret it or they might. I cannot relate to it, seems stifling but to each their own their definition of contentment.
I disagree, some of the happiest people I've met were born into money, some of the most miserable people I've met have a ton of money but the job that gives them such a salary is a near constant high stress grind that keeps that money coming in.
The obvious point being, any life must have (a perceived) meaning of sorts in order to be happy; for most, that involves relationships i.e. a significant other, friends, family, community and so on. As such, a career one enjoys/finds challenging may provide additional (personal) meaning - even if it would be considered ‘stressful’ to you. In other words, it’s all relative to a person’s perception; if they think of themselves as being stuck in (or stressed by) a job (or a relationship, for that matter), they aren’t going to be happy (regardless of money).
The logical question, then: Why do the high-earning folks you know (who suffer from ‘constant high stress’ and have ‘a ton of money’) feel stuck in their jobs and/or don’t do anything about it? At the very least, they should consider ways in which their stress can be reduced and/or learn how to cope more effectively.
The logical question, then: Why do the high-earning folks you know (who suffer from ‘constant high stress’ and have ‘a ton of money’) feel stuck in their jobs and/or don’t do anything about it?
Most likely, it’s because they need to make that amount of money to maintain the lifestyle they want or do even better.
Seldom do people want to lower their standard of living.
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Most people who try to make a lot of money crash and burn from the stress. If it were that easy, then everybody would be doing it.
There is a reason they say get rich or die trying.
Everyone has a different level of what they consider stress. A lot of lazy or fearful people would think that it is too hard.
Please provide a link to the study where the fact that most people crash and burn while trying to get rich is cited.
Or is this just a judgemental opinion you have.
Most likely, it’s because they need to make that amount of money to maintain the lifestyle they want or do even better.
Seldom do people want to lower their standard of living.
Yeah. My point being, if Chilesaucecritic’s high-earning friends with ‘tons of money’ aren’t happy, per his/her posts, they need to do something relative to their own happiness. Money doesn’t buy happiness; but it can buy opportunity/security (provided they are able to manage it).
Then again, you’re right; money doesn’t buy common sense, either. :-)
Everyone has a different level of what they consider stress. A lot of lazy or fearful people would think that it is too hard.
Please provide a link to the study where the fact that most people crash and burn while trying to get rich is cited.
Or is this just a judgemental opinion you have.
Nearly everybody would like to be rich if they could. It is a universal human aspiration. The fact that most of us fail at it is proof that it’s not as easy as it looks.
Most people cannot fathom working 16 hours a day for years on end. It is probably not in their DNA. They will make excuses and give up. There is tremendous competition and sacrifice involved in getting there, no matter which path is taken.
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From my perspective, it’s absurd to (even) consider/suggest money can buy a psychological mindset or awareness. That said, while it can’t ‘make’ anyone happy (only you can do that), it certainly can buy a cushy/enjoyable lifestyle which can increase or enhance one’s happiness.
Having money can, from my perspective, make a person happy. It is almost impossible to be happy when one's basic needs aren't, and can't be, met. Like good healthcare, the ability to buy healthy food, a decent home to live in, utilities, transportation of some sort to work, etc. The stress and anxiety of not having any of that would be daily. If we could wave a magic wand and take all those concerns from someone, that person would become happy, IMO (to the extent that person is ever happy - there are different degrees of happiness, depending on the person's basic nature)
But as several posters, incl. myself, have said: there's a point at which having more money doesn't make a person happier. Being able to buy one more castle or one more vintage antique is very different from being able to buy a much needed meal or paying the coinsurance for cancer treatments in a hospital.
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