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It saves money to build in Austin instead of some other place, given the current size of the Austin site and workforce.
No it doesn't. Its a totally separate building on a totally separate site a mile from their existing facility. There's no cost savings whatsoever.
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So, it sort of is about money... and also about the labor pool.
I agree its partially about the labor pool...glad you're finally getting on board with the real reasons. The Triangle needs to figure out how to attract that labor force.
RTP has great skin. Now it just needs the bones of mass transit. I visit the area multiple times per year. That's where my wife's family lives. The area is so spread out. It feels like one big suburb. Build transit out from the Raliegh city center. Then invest in Transit Oriented Development around each station.
Don't just do spokes first like DC. Out Beltway is jammed because there is no circular mode of mass transit connecting all the spokes. I'd do one north-south line and an east-west line and then start connecting those spokes.
That will take decades, unfortunately. RTP may not have decades as other cities have mature transit systems already in place.
Rapid Bus Transit could be done in a short period of time.
I’m just wondering whether the talk of Apple coming here was ever real. If that’s the case then whoever cam up with the fiction of south RTP campus and temp space on Weston Pkwy has some really good imagination.
No it doesn't. Its a totally separate building on a totally separate site a mile from their existing facility. There's no cost savings whatsoever.
I agree its partially about the labor pool...glad you're finally getting on board with the real reasons. The Triangle needs to figure out how to attract that labor force.
If you intend to stick to the notion that there was no cost savings to be had by Apple in this scenario, you and I have nothing left to discuss on this topic.
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If you intend to stick to the notion that there was no cost savings to be had by Apple in this scenario, you and I have nothing left to discuss on this topic.
I guess I don't understand what cost savings you're referring to. Can you explain exactly what cost savings could occur in Austin, given that Apple is building a new building on a new site there? What is the difference between that and constructing a new building on a new site in another city? Contractors aren't to charge less to build a building in Austin because Apple already has a building there. Are there other significant cost savings besides those related to the purchase of land and construction of a building that Apple would realize in Austin versus another city? I can't think of what they would be...
RTP has great skin. Now it just needs the bones of mass transit. I visit the area multiple times per year. That's where my wife's family lives. The area is so spread out. It feels like one big suburb. Build transit out from the Raliegh city center. Then invest in Transit Oriented Development around each station.
Don't just do spokes first like DC. Out Beltway is jammed because there is no circular mode of mass transit connecting all the spokes. I'd do one north-south line and an east-west line and then start connecting those spokes.
That will take decades, unfortunately. RTP may not have decades as other cities have mature transit systems already in place.
Yes is very true. Unfortunately, it also will take a state government willing to participate financially in that, and right now, NC isn't.
According to this article, Apple is going to be just as sprawled out in the Austin suburbs as is would have been here in RTP.
All about talent, talent, talent. What talent does Apple already have there (quite a bit apparently -7000K), what talent is already there working for other companies that Apple might be able to tap into (a bunch...Dell etc), what potential is there to draw more talent (from world).
Talent likes to be around other talent -the companies and the talent themselves prefer this. It takes talent to draw more talent. So, how you get to that "threshhold"? Eventually an area/region reaches escape velocity and it just feeds on itself drawing more without even really trying; hence, the rich getting richer theme of the article.
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