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Experiences with public schools just really varies based on what school district and state you're in. Different people grow up in different areas and thus have different experiences/interactions based on the school system they grew up in/nearby. Totally understandable how there can be a wide range of opinions on that.
Lots of kids do fine and excel in public schools. Please keep in mind that several people commenting on this post are anti-public schools.
Fwiw, I am a product of Wake county schools (I graduated in 1991). I have a junior and freshman in college that went to Wake county schools their entire school career. And I have a current high school freshman. My kids have had great experiences their entire time in public school and I have absolutely no complaints. I honestly love their high school.
Pffft my sister had a FOURTH GRADER last year who brought a knife to school AND was caught vaping in class. This is a NINE YEAR OLD. Nothing was done.
When my DD was in middle school a girl brought a knife to school and also pushed a kid down the stairs. Nothing was done and she's off at college playing a sport and no she never got any better. Can't wait till she tries to drown one of her college teammates. DD often spoke of keeping an eye on her because she was sure she going to end up on the news in HS.
Some of these cases can be addressed by short-term or intermediate-term juvenile detention, although we would have to spend a lot of money to increase capacity. Sadly, most of these cases are mental health problems with long-term implications. Institutionalizing them indefinitely is one answer, but eventually we will have to put a much more robust mental health system in place.
Teenagers with mental illnesses are nothing new. There were a lot of them in my high school 50 years ago. The difference between then and now is the danger they pose.
Some of these cases can be addressed by short-term or intermediate-term juvenile detention, although we would have to spend a lot of money to increase capacity. Sadly, most of these cases are mental health problems with long-term implications. Institutionalizing them indefinitely is one answer, but eventually we will have to put a much more robust mental health system in place.
Teenagers with mental illnesses are nothing new. There were a lot of them in my high school 50 years ago. The difference between then and now is the danger they pose.
Yup.
Expelling a 14 year old for a year may be a "feel good" in the schools, but outside the school, no adult guidance, no mental health support, no cares, too often we just see greater problems after kicking the can down the road.
How will that 14 y.o. be better adjusted to return to school as a 15 y.o., let alone one who has just lost another full year with students his own age?
Yup.
Expelling a 14 year old for a year may be a "feel good" in the schools, but outside the school, no adult guidance, no mental health support, no cares, too often we just see greater problems after kicking the can down the road.
How will that 14 y.o. be better adjusted to return to school as a 15 y.o., let alone one who has just lost another full year with students his own age?
Kids don't get expelled from school for a year, they get suspended.
I think the point being made is that suspending for a year is not enough. They should be expelled - IE never allowed to return to public school.
NC law requires attending public school, private school, or home school until age 16. Wealthy families can afford private school and simultaneous mental health treatment. That's not to say that troubled teens from wealthy homes never commit felonies, but those kids have better options. Working-class families seldom can afford private school or mental health treatment, much less both. Many of the expelled kids will be nominally home schooled until 16 and shortly thereafter reach adulthood with little or no mental health treatment and few if any skills to support themselves.
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