Another day another school lockdown (living, county, place)

[GVoR]

Originally Posted by Universe93B

Yeah, that's not the main issue but look at what happens in the US - all these toddlers and 6 year olds get a hold of guns and bring them to school? 120 guns per person, way ahead of any other place on Earth.

Guns per capita and Incarcerated People per capita (until 2020).....What America does best.



America, F yeah!

[RogueMom]

Originally Posted by Universe93B

Yeah, that's not the main issue but look at what happens in the US - all these toddlers and 6 year olds get a hold of guns and bring them to school? 120 guns per person, way ahead of any other place on Earth.

That is a personal accountability and personal responsibility deficit on the part of the adults in the home.

[MikeJaquish]

Originally Posted by RogueMom

That is a personal accountability and personal responsibility deficit on the part of the adults in the home.

When 34 people get shot in a Stoneman/Douglas episode, holding someone "personally responsible" because the NRA crowd considers the dead as collateral damage for the sake of their desire to easily sell and access and hold unlimited armament sort of rings hollow.

[section351]

Originally Posted by RogueMom

That is a personal accountability and personal responsibility deficit on the part of the adults in the home.

It's a personal accountably problem until it starts affecting other people

[section351]

We have laws to prevent things from happening

[MikeJaquish]

Originally Posted by section351

We have laws to prevent things from happening

Nope.
So, speeding laws prevent speeding on streets and highways?
Nope.
So, murder laws prevent murder?
Nope.

We have laws to dissuade and to invoke consequences.

[m378]

Originally Posted by MikeJaquish

Nope.
So, speeding laws prevent speeding on streets and highways?
Nope.
So, murder laws prevent murder?
Nope.

We have laws to dissuade and to invoke consequences.

Maybe the consequences need to be revisited.

[ncwheeling]

Originally Posted by m378

Maybe the consequences need to be revisited.

I'll vote for, in the town square at noon, public caning. Rebroadcast the event on the nightly news and on social media. Nothing else seems to work, or is feasible in our current legal quagmire.

For the guys involved in the gas station shootout in Henderson, North Carolina, 100 strokes would be about right - after incarceration time.

Ten to twenty strokes if your kid brings one of your weapons to school, or it gets stolen from your car.

[GVoR]

Originally Posted by ncwheeling

I'll vote for, in the town square at noon, public caning. Rebroadcast the event on the nightly news and on social media. Nothing else seems to work, or is feasible in our current legal quagmire.

For the guys involved in the
gas station shootout in Henderson, North Carolina, 100 strokes would be about right - after incarceration time.

Ten to twenty strokes if your kid brings one of your weapons to school, or it gets stolen from your car.

We are a country of no shame. Embarrassment, Michael Fay, style won't work.

Allowing:

The suing of gun manufacturers when the weapons they have marketed to the hilt, are used in events

And

Charging parents (civilly and criminally) when a minor dependent commits one of these crimes

would be exactly where I start. We're a country of cheap traders. Hit companies and people in the wallet.

[MikeJaquish]

Originally Posted by m378

Maybe the consequences need to be revisited.

So, go all Tom Cruise/Minority Report and prevent crimes by precognition?
Anyone killing others knows the consequences are grave.

Laws don't prevent crime. It is that simple.
Well, Greg Abbott has 100% stopped rape in Texas, so I'll give you that.