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i don't want to explain anymore. The whole thing is ended. I got my peace back. My wife is happy again. She hate leaks more than i do so happy wife, happy life. You can re-read my post but seem you don't read at all. But like i said i would careless if anybody trust me. I know, God know, both agents know what happened. My version is what i saw in front of my eyes. If the other side have a different version. They had the chance to explain but they did not. All i know is i got inform about the leak 15 mins before i walk in. Then the leak was found yesterday noon. It was almost done fixing just neex to paint over. I saw crappy job done as happened to other things the seller promised to fix. I don't know what else could go wrong with the house. But anyway, i canceled the contract reasoning the house is not the same condition when i signed agree to buy as my attorney consulted me to do.
I'm glad everything worked out for you and all parties can now move on.
Seller said they want more money from fixing stuffs in the inspection report ( which most is cleaning and fix a small rotting spot on the garage door) and the potential money they lost during the period of pending.
Now for 2nd question, no. I will not buy that house even if it is fixed by a qualified personnel. I don't want to live under the fear if it will be re-leak or mold is growing...no one can guarantee that. i don't want to inspect that area every year.
Thank you for providing the post. So the OP demanded to inspect the home threatening to kill the deal if he didn't because he wanted to be sure it was clean and a small rotting spot on the garage door repaired? No he wanted out of this deal before any "leak" was discovered. The OP should be happy he's just out the deposit.
And then there's.. I did not mention that there were a rotation of tornado above my area the week before we suppose to close , that is reason why i drive there to check out the neighboor hood. I don't need all of those details in my post. I don't know how to put my story down in a good way to understand the whole thing.yeah now there's somethign ,
So now the OP is driving by because of possible tornado damage to the home? The story just keeps changing.
Seller to seller's agent to buyer's agent to buyer is the standard and normal communication channel.
To formalize something you do it in writing.
But it is not hearsay.
It is not wrong; it is the textbook definition of the word as shown above. Whatever was stated by the agents could not be substantiated. If you choose to create your own definition of words there can be no credibility and no discussion. Talk about "dumb?" (Shakes head)
It is not wrong; it is the textbook definition of the word as shown above. Whatever was stated by the agents could not be substantiated. If you choose to create your own definition of words there can be no credibility and no discussion. Talk about "dumb?" (Shakes head)
Of course it can be substantiated. The buyer simply has n inspector or contractor look at the repair. Very simple to tell if a leak is still active. And the documents from the contractor who did the repair can be examined or even discussed with the one who did it.
And again that is the standard information flow in an RE transaction. And the agents have an agency relationship with their principals. It is therefore direct communication between the buyer and seller.
Of course it can be substantiated. The buyer simply has n inspector or contractor look at the repair. Very simple to tell if a leak is still active. And the documents from the contractor who did the repair can be examined or even discussed with the one who did it.
And again that is the standard information flow in an RE transaction. And the agents have an agency relationship with their principals. It is therefore direct communication between the buyer and seller.
You appear to know little about RE.
The "standard" that you are so quick to praise failed here or there would be no thread. One guy said to another guy who told another guy who told the buyer. That is no way to do business and anyone spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on such information would be a fool. Would you?
You say it could have been substantiated but it wasn't! No pictures, no documents, and no leaving the site open for inspection. The owner opened the ceiling and then closed it; that's the only thing the evidence shows. The source of the leak, the damage caused and the repair, if any, is unknown. Why go on about this?
The word of the seller and the two agents is useless in addressing the problem. You appear to know little about contract law and your blind faith in some purported real estate "standard" can only get you or anyone you're advising in serious financial trouble.
The "standard" that you are so quick to praise failed here or there would be no thread. One guy said to another guy who told another guy who told the buyer. That is no way to do business and anyone spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on such information would be a fool. Would you?
You say it could have been substantiated but it wasn't! No pictures, no documents, and no leaving the site open for inspection. The owner opened the ceiling and then closed it; that's the only thing the evidence shows. The source of the leak, the damage caused and the repair, if any, is unknown. Why go on about this?
The word of the seller and the two agents is useless in addressing the problem. You appear to know little about contract law and your blind faith in some purported real estate "standard" can only get you or anyone you're advising in serious financial trouble.
If I were buying a house and shortly before closing discovered a wall had been opened/closed because of a pipe leak I'd be very concerned.
Especially if my agent says, "Oh yeah, there was a leak but the seller had it repaired."
This is where I would make a full stop and speak with an RE attorney.
Never mind what the RE agent says. I'd speak with an attorney and find out exactly where I stand.
If I were buying a house and shortly before closing discovered a wall had been opened/closed because of a pipe leak I'd be very concerned.
Especially if my agent says, "Oh yeah, there was a leak but the seller had it repaired."
This is where I would make a full stop and speak with an RE attorney.
Never mind what the RE agent says. I'd speak with an attorney and find out exactly where I stand.
And again all you would do would be waste the cost of the consultation.
It really is cut and dried in a regular sale transaction.
Now if I were either agent and had the opportunity I might well try to tie the buyer and seller into an agreed solution. In this case it would likely be to fix the leak but leave the wall open. Seller to make arrangements to have the wall fixed or compensate the buyer. Note that with a bank involved this can get complex and in some cases the only sensible way may be to get the repair completed before closing.
And if the repair has already been completed I might well push the seller to agree to reopen the wall. And if he refuses I might well agree to pay to have it done myself. A few hundred dollars against a reasonable commission is a no brainer.
Note that in the West the RE Attorneys are high price specialists used almost exclusively when a deal gets legally contentious. They play no role in routine sales.
And again all you would do would be waste the cost of the consultation.
It really is cut and dried in a regular sale transaction.
Now if I were either agent and had the opportunity I might well try to tie the buyer and seller into an agreed solution. In this case it would likely be to fix the leak but leave the wall open. Seller to make arrangements to have the wall fixed or compensate the buyer. Note that with a bank involved this can get complex and in some cases the only sensible way may be to get the repair completed before closing.
And if the repair has already been completed I might well push the seller to agree to reopen the wall. And if he refuses I might well agree to pay to have it done myself. A few hundred dollars against a reasonable commission is a no brainer.
Note that in the West the RE Attorneys are high price specialists used almost exclusively when a deal gets legally contentious. They play no role in routine sales.
Not at all. I've dealt with a pipe leak behind a wall numerous times in the past. They can me minor or indicative of a major problem. Most were minor but I've had two which were major.
I'm not going to listen to my RE agent especially if he knew about the problem and didn't at least email me right away.
True, a 30 min consultation can cost $300 but I'm spending a hell of a lot more buying the house.
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i don't want to explain anymore. The whole thing is ended. I got my peace back. My wife is happy again. She hate leaks more than i do so happy wife, happy life. You can re-read my post but seem you don't read at all. But like i said i would careless if anybody trust me. I know, God know, both agents know what happened. My version is what i saw in front of my eyes. If the other side have a different version. They had the chance to explain but they did not. All i know is i got inform about the leak 15 mins before i walk in. Then the leak was found yesterday noon. It was almost done fixing just neex to paint over. I saw crappy job done as happened to other things the seller promised to fix. I don't know what else could go wrong with the house. But anyway, i canceled the contract reasoning the house is not the same condition when i signed agree to buy as my attorney consulted me to do.
