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Is that not a type of scam? A way of pulling a fast sone on someone? It's not "paranoid" to think someone's "trying to mess with your property ownership from your recorder's office"?
Just like one would set up alerts for a credit card, say for purchases outside your area or above a certain amount, most recorder's offices and tax collectors now have systems in place to alert the property owner if changes are made to the records.
Nothing paranoiac about that, it's just a best (security) practice.
The letters are hand written with pen. When I flip the paper over, the ink bleeds through. So they are definitely taking the time to write everything out. Each piece of mail usually has two papers hand written with an offer at the very bottom of the last page. It's not like the letters are short either. They fill up the entire paper.
From what I have gathered in previous letters, they are a couple in their mid 30's who want purchase the house because they want to be near their family members who supposedly live close by.
Just thought I'd ask you guys about this because as I have stated, the last letter I received seemed quite aggressive asking why I have not responded to any of the letters they have sent.
first thought: creepy.
followed closely by: scam
and since you mentioned "getting more aggressive": major red flag
how about this: ask them to provide you with their full names, full dates of birth, full Social security numbers, proof of income, pay stubs for the past 7 years, proof of employment, name of employer, name and phone number of supervisor, bank statements for all accounts for the last seven years, name of their realtor, names and addresses and phone numbers of family members in the area, name address and phone number of five professional references in your local area, ask them for $3,500 cash up front for you to run a full background check on them including criminal history, and also on their "family members" in the vicinity, and also proof of all residences for the past 10 years, where they have lived, names of landlords, apartment managers. that would be a very bare minimum.
see what their response is. and if the letters stop.
Do you tell atbdrive through people when they ask if you’re using a debit card? No? You’ve given them 10X the information the person sending that fake letter has.
The letters are hand written with pen. When I flip the paper over, the ink bleeds through. So they are definitely taking the time to write everything out. Each piece of mail usually has two papers hand written with an offer at the very bottom of the last page. It's not like the letters are short either. They fill up the entire paper.
From what I have gathered in previous letters, they are a couple in their mid 30's who want purchase the house because they want to be near their family members who supposedly live close by.
Just thought I'd ask you guys about this because as I have stated, the last letter I received seemed quite aggressive asking why I have not responded to any of the letters they have sent.
If that's the case, you might check with neighbors, to see if any have received something similar.
first thought: creepy.
followed closely by: scam
and since you mentioned "getting more aggressive": major red flag
how about this: ask them to provide you with their full names, full dates of birth, full Social security numbers, proof of income, pay stubs for the past 7 years, proof of employment, name of employer, name and phone number of supervisor, bank statements for all accounts for the last seven years, name of their realtor, names and addresses and phone numbers of family members in the area, name address and phone number of five professional references in your local area, ask them for $3,500 cash up front for you to run a full background check on them including criminal history, and also on their "family members" in the vicinity, and also proof of all residences for the past 10 years, where they have lived, names of landlords, apartment managers. that would be a very bare minimum.
see what their response is. and if the letters stop.
Real estate agents here do it all the time whenever property prices are rising. Some will low ball you so they can flip the house themselves while others will have a client that's willing to pay a spiff for finding them a house.
I purchased my home in late 2018 for $175,000. These past 7-8 months, there is a couple that continuously sends offers in the mail every week with sometimes a long letter. Every time they send a letter, the offer is always increased by a good amount. This last offer was for a little over $430,000. Well a couple of days ago, I received a letter from them asking why I have not responded to any of their letters.
I have not responded because I'm simply not interested in selling, but should I respond at this point? What used to be one letter a week has now become two letters a week.
Hope you are not a single older individual without heirs and they are not targeting you for nefarious reasons and need some correspondence from you for their tricks.
Could you ask a friend - a lawyer is better- to call them and say that the call is recorded, to stop harassing “a resident at so and so address” as the house is not and never will be for sale.
Don’t provide any reasons on why. Make it very short and brief without giving out any information, no recording of your voice and no a sample of your handwriting
If you have kept all the letters- maybe it is enough in your jurisdiction to file a restraining order with the police? Or ask your friendly policeman to tell them to stop?
Somehow you put a target on your back. Think if you have said something in passing to some professional people like realtors, bankers, insurance agents, nurses, doctors or .. lawyers, CPAs, etc that might be construed as you some day want to move? Or downsize? Or that you can not afford certain repairs?
One can’t be too careful, especially when getting older..
Last edited by L00k4ward; 12-26-2021 at 03:17 PM..
Bummer about how these prospective buyers keep grabbing OP's elbow on the street. It's really bad the way they blocked his car in until he listened to their spiel. And that business when they tried to force their way into his house- that was over the top.
Oh, wait a minute. All they did was send him letters.
Neevveer mind.
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