Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Relationships
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-09-2011, 10:33 AM
 
6,041 posts, read 11,476,176 times
Reputation: 2386

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
This "alpha/beta" crap is just that--crap. I know how the world works, that's all.

The guy's in his twenties, I know how guys in their 20s act.

Once he's gotten what he's wanted, there's no reason for him to stick around, or do anything for her. And he won't. He's a lost cause, and she should just forget about him.
Did you act that way when you were in your 20s?

I thought you don't believe in doctors or medicine, so you should think it's a good thing that he didn't bring her medicine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-09-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
11,039 posts, read 16,872,840 times
Reputation: 12950
Quote:
Originally Posted by 415_s2k View Post
Yes.

Especially after you just told him you "need more time" for things to become "serious."

Sorry, but if you've been seeing a guy in a less serious way, he decides to pose that he'd like to define the relationship and be exclusive, and then you rebuke him, it's somewhat selfish and unfair for you to then expect that he'll still drop plans that he'd already made because you don't feel like going outside because you feel icky. After all, you're not serious or exclusive. That means that you're bascially dating. I may offer to drop medicine off, but I probably wouldn't feel inclined to hang out over there that long, either.

May not be the cuddly way to look at it, but I'm just being honest here!
I just wanted to point out that I've gotten over fifty rep points for my above opinion, if that's any indicator of peoples' general feelings. New personal record!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-09-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: The State Line
2,632 posts, read 4,053,535 times
Reputation: 3069
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna in AZ View Post
They are not friends. They dated a little and hopped into bed. It gets fuzzy from here from the original op regarding who initiated discussing anything more.

There are conditions on asking someone to come over and hang with a sick person. The medicine was 2nd to hanging out for a bit. You don't ask a stranger to do that and this is exactly the point; she had sex with a practical stranger and now expects him to prove his love to her. She may be right considering how she gave when he needed it (dog dying...). Still, this is a lesson to not get involved so fast. The pressure of expectations will kill anything good.

If you want a serious relationship, take time to develop a friendship first. He has every right to keep dating (as do you) even if you had sex. Men seem to get the feminist movement better than women. He assumed she made a personal choice in having sex without asking for a commitment before (as her right) but for her to expect more from him after is downright manipulative. Accept personal responsibility for your actions and judge others upon theirs. There really is no right or wrong here when it comes down to it. It's a personal choice to forgive what you consider an affront or move on.
For what it was worth, I wasn't expecting him to want to stay over there. I would agree I wouldn't have mentioned it if I were in that situation. Regardless of the conditions, anyone that is ready for a serious relationship, even with someone they may not be "obligated" to do anything for, but still care about, would have at least tried to do something thoughtful--not spend the day, but something other than saying, "I wish I could help you feel better". I don't think dropping off medication before going to his friends would have been out of the question, if his interest in her wasn't based on conditions.

I guess the bottom line is neither one is ready for a serious relationship. Both should know a relationship is about give and take, and not based on conditions when you don't get your way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-09-2011, 11:06 AM
 
769 posts, read 1,013,980 times
Reputation: 473
No he isn;t your husband... your barely his girlfriend
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-09-2011, 11:30 AM
 
36,542 posts, read 30,891,756 times
Reputation: 32825
Man, I have a better insite into why so many are having such a hard time dating and being in a relationship. I never realized there was a specific time limit and level of commitment for people to do something nice for someone they are suspose to have feeling for.

One has to commit to a serious exclusive relationship to have them drop off some cold medicine.
What level of humanity does one get for engagement, marriage, having someones child?
If they were engaged would it be acceptable for him to see her mucus filled self and perhaps sit with her for a few minutes. After marriage he could actually ask her to drop him off at the airport?

Geesh. As I said Ive done as much for people that are just acquaintances.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-09-2011, 12:12 PM
 
6,143 posts, read 7,560,854 times
Reputation: 6617
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2mares View Post
Man, I have a better insite into why so many are having such a hard time dating and being in a relationship. I never realized there was a specific time limit and level of commitment for people to do something nice for someone they are suspose to have feeling for.

One has to commit to a serious exclusive relationship to have them drop off some cold medicine.
What level of humanity does one get for engagement, marriage, having someones child?
If they were engaged would it be acceptable for him to see her mucus filled self and perhaps sit with her for a few minutes. After marriage he could actually ask her to drop him off at the airport?

Geesh. As I said Ive done as much for people that are just acquaintances.
Agreed. Regardless of the other variables, or whether or not she actually expected him to stay with her while sick, the bottom line is the dude wouldn't even drop off some medicine.

I have done more for someone I was "seeing" but not yet in a defined relationship with. Didn't know I should have asked for a ring before picking him up at the airport.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-09-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: New Milford, NJ
1,452 posts, read 3,172,414 times
Reputation: 1016
I don't know why people are bashing the OP and saying he had no obligation to her because she said she wasn't ready to be exclusive yet after just a few short weeks of dating. As 2mares said, I've done as much and have for acquaintances. If you want a serious relationship with someone, you have to be a good friend first and that's what friends do.

I wouldn't have expected him to hang around because actually I can understand not wanting to get sick if you're in a position, for example, where you cant' afford to take off from work and/or get other people sick. That being said, however, he could have offered to pick up whatever medication was needed and/or some chicken soup before going out with friends and either made a quick visit to minimize the risk of getting sick or even just dropped it off outside the door.

Sorry, but I think he's not good relationship material. I don't blame you for being pissed off.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-15-2011, 10:07 AM
 
78,447 posts, read 60,652,129 times
Reputation: 49750
Quote:
Originally Posted by onegreatnurse View Post
I don't know why people are bashing the OP and saying he had no obligation to her because she said she wasn't ready to be exclusive yet after just a few short weeks of dating. As 2mares said, I've done as much and have for acquaintances. If you want a serious relationship with someone, you have to be a good friend first and that's what friends do.

I wouldn't have expected him to hang around because actually I can understand not wanting to get sick if you're in a position, for example, where you cant' afford to take off from work and/or get other people sick. That being said, however, he could have offered to pick up whatever medication was needed and/or some chicken soup before going out with friends and either made a quick visit to minimize the risk of getting sick or even just dropped it off outside the door.

Sorry, but I think he's not good relationship material. I don't blame you for being pissed off.
I hear what you are saying but quite frankly you say it yourself in the bolded part above.

Imagine if you'd gone on a few dates with a guy, had sex and wanted to be exclusive and he said no. Then he calls you up and wants you to break your plans to run errands for him?

I think you are correct about the relationship material thing but I think it may apply to BOTH of them?

If I knew both of them IRL then I could draw some firmer conclusions but I can't. The truth might be that he's a user just out for sex or that she is a princess that wants to call all the shots and he stood up to her and she got mad. Maybe it's somewhere in-between.

I would say that the AGE of the people involved would play a big part in my thinking. I'm guessing these are 20-somethings.
If they were older I would be much more inclined to side with the gal in the situation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Relationships

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:38 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top