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Old 06-01-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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Seems like a risk one would be willing to make rather than unexpectedly siring a child, if abstinence is out of the question. My husband had no complications; I don't think most men who have the procedure experience any side effects other than discomfort during the healing process.

An alternative would be to use multiple forms of birth control at the same time, every time, but even that is not 100%. If a guy really doesn't want to ever have children or pay child support, it seems like the only reliable options are to zip it or snip it.
Exactly, just be responsible.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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Im 30,..... NO
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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Complications, lowered testosterone production, etc.
"A major study of vasectomy side effects occurring within eight to 10 years after the procedure was published in the British Medical Journal in 1992. This study -- the Health Status of American Men, or HSAM -- was sponsored by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD). Investigators questioned 10,590 vasectomized men, and an equal number of nonvasectomized men, to see if they had developed any of 99 different disorders. After a total of 182,000 person-years of follow-up, only one condition, epididymitis/orchitis (defined as painful, swollen, and tender epididymis or testis) -- was found to be more common after vasectomy. This local inflammation most often occurs during the first year after surgery. When treated with heat, it usually clears up within a week."

Lowered testosterone levels can also be caused by sport injuries, alcohol, aging, reat meat and tight jeans. Might want to avoid all that stuff too.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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I disagree with the abortion. I personally cannot abort a fetus (which is Latin for baby) with a clear conscience. I'd put them up for adoption and meet up with them when they're older.
You do know that contact with a birth parent is up to the child. There is no guarentee that you will ever have any knowledge of a child you give up for adoption. So dont count on meeting up with them when they are older.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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You do know that contact with a birth parent is up to the child. There is no guarentee that you will ever have any knowledge of a child you give up for adoption. So dont count on meeting up with them when they are older.
And if you raise a kid, that's no guarantee of contact when they get older and move out.

If someone had a bad childhood because they were raised by parents that were unfit to raise a child, they probably won't want contact with their parents when they get older.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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And if you raise a kid, that's no guarantee of contact when they get older and move out.

If someone had a bad childhood because they were raised by parents that were unfit to raise a child, they probably won't want contact with their parents when they get older.
You and 2mares make excellent points, but I would rather do what wouod be best for the child and do what would most likely make them happy by giving them to a loving home. If they don't want to see me, then that's ok. There's no guarantee either way you go.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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And if you raise a kid, that's no guarantee of contact when they get older and move out.

If someone had a bad childhood because they were raised by parents that were unfit to raise a child, they probably won't want contact with their parents when they get older.
Of course. Just saying either way dont think you can just waltz into an adult childs life because you want to. They may not want a relationship with you be it because you werent there for them during their childhood because of adoption or you were there but a bad parent.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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Of course. Just saying either way dont think you can just waltz into an adult childs life because you want to. They may not want a relationship with you be it because you werent there for them during their childhood because of adoption or you were there but a bad parent.
So why bother keeping the baby if you know the baby (and you) will have a bad life? Why not give the baby to an adoptive parent so the baby will have a better life and your life won't be ruined?

If anything, putting the baby up for adoption shows that you are there for them. It shows that you want what's best for the baby.

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You and 2mares make excellent points, but I would rather do what wouod be best for the child and do what would most likely make them happy by giving them to a loving home. If they don't want to see me, then that's ok. There's no guarantee either way you go.
And that's exactly the point I was trying to make. If you know you're unfit to be a parent, it's better to give the baby to someone that wants to be a parent.

I assumed you would be willing to take the chance that the baby wouldn't want to see you, and you confirmed my assumption on this post.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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You and 2mares make excellent points, but I would rather do what wouod be best for the child and do what would most likely make them happy by giving them to a loving home. If they don't want to see me, then that's ok. There's no guarantee either way you go.
Thats good , but for someone who is outspokenly "childfree" and advocating for "childfree" lifestyles and vasectomys all around and worried about there being 6 billion people on the planet you might want to consider tubaligation and reconsider abortion as an option in case your "childfree" life dosent work out. You dont want to add an unwanted child to world overpopulation.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Thats good , but for someone who is outspokenly "childfree" and advocating for "childfree" lifestyles and vasectomys all around and worried about there being 6 billion people on the planet you might want to consider tubaligation and reconsider abortion as an option in case your "childfree" life dosent work out. You dont want to add an unwanted child to world overpopulation.
For that matter, I don't understand how someone can be child-free and also pro-life. If you truly hate the thought of having a baby, you would support abortion. If someone hated babies as much as me, they would support abortion.
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