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Old 11-21-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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Actually, some geneticists did exactly that several years ago. I can't find the study immediately (I'm supposed to be on a deadline), but the upshot was that a group of roughly 2,500 people were genetically tested versus their supposed fathers. Mind you, this group were not adopted the product of artificial conception, but rather supposedly conceived in a monogamous marriage.

The result? Roughly 10% of the people tested had no genetic link to their fathers.
There's good reason you can't find the study immediately.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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I know that I'm my father's child.
My father, looking at the sandals my sisters and I were wearing for a wedding: Gee, I'll never have to wonder where you girls came from. All of you got my feet.

My mother, rolling her eyes: Better that than your brain.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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There's good reason you can't find the study immediately.
And why's that?
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:15 AM
 
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And why's that?
I'll wait and see if you can figure it out on your own, but it's in the same space as to why you and tegota won't address my post and links (just a clue for ya).
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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I'll wait and see if you can figure it out on your own, but it's in the same space as to why you and tegota won't address my post and links (just a clue for ya).
I love it when you speak in code. Or accuse me of something without actually accusing me of something.

The study I refer to is the one by Baker and Bellis, authored in 1995:

Baker, R. & Bellis, M. (1995). Human sperm competition. (New York: Chapman Hall)
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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What makes you say that?
What proof or stats do you have to back up your opinion.
You're saying that no one would stick with a spouse?
Perhaps you're talking about your own relationships, but that's a pretty broad mop you're using to paint everyone.
He is probably using what he sees around him and in the media to make that statement and as a former resident of the Washington DC area where you can be thrown under the bus at any time for any reason, I don't disagree with him.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Ummm...I'm thinking most men would definitely want to know if the child they were raising wasn't their own. And you, assuming fidelity with your husband, would know who the father was.

As far as the survey participants, my understanding is that it was completely random. It wasn't as if the researchers put out a leaflet saying, "Find out if you're really related to your dad."

And, if memory serves me correctly, the numbers were actually higher in Europe. Somewhere around 15%.
If the study was completely random - then there were most definitely some adoptions and artificial inseminations in the bunch. Not everyone will admit that - especially if they don't know what study they are a part of or if they are even a part of a study at all.

My son looks exactly like his dad and I look like my dad. But more than that - both my parents and my husband and I are in good marriages where we trust the other person completely - and with good reason.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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There have been many studies on paternal uncertainty, but of course reliable information is very hard to obtain that is accurate and statistically valid. However, a review of multiple studies (sorry, can't find the link) that I read concluded that the number of children being raised by a male who falsely thinks they are his when they are not is very likely in the 3% to 7% range (as best I can recall). The review dismissed some flawed studies and some with unreliable (but very high) estimates.

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Old 11-21-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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I love it when you speak in code. Or accuse me of something without actually accusing me of something.

The study I refer to is the one by Baker and Bellis, authored in 1995:

Baker, R. & Bellis, M. (1995). Human sperm competition. (New York: Chapman Hall)
First of all that is not a study. It's a book is it not? Now, lets see if you can figure out why you didn't produce a study.

eta: btw, a study is to be found in a journal not a publishing house.
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Old 11-21-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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If I ever marry, she won't have time for some secret sex life.

She'll be having too much sex at home!
You won't be saying that after 5 years of marriage.
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