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Old 04-05-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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Great article (Warning for R-rated language):

5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com

I liked them all, but I thought this one was the best:

"We Were Told That Society Owed Us a Hot Girl

From birth we're taught that we're owed a beautiful girl. We all think of ourselves as the hero of our own story, and we all (whether we admit it or not) think we're heroes for just getting through our day.

So it's very frustrating, and I mean frustrating to the point of violence, when we don't get what we're owed. A contract has been broken. These women, by exercising their own choices, are denying it to us. It's why every Nice Guy is shocked to find that buying gifts for a girl and doing her favors won't win him sex. It's why we go to "****" and "*****" as our default insults -- we're not mad that women enjoy sex. We're mad that women are distributing to other people the sex that they owed us.

Yes, the women in these stories are being portrayed as wonderful and beautiful and perfect. But remember, there are two ways to dehumanize someone: by dismissing them, and by idolizing them."

I think this could apply to both sexes, that many were brought up by a generation of baby boomers who instilled in us the belief that we are entitled to the 'perfect' mate, but I think it makes good points either way.

Thoughts?
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Infernuan
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Originally Posted by DrVanNostren View Post
Great article (Warning for R-rated language):

5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com

I liked them all, but I thought this one was the best:

"We Were Told That Society Owed Us a Hot Girl

From birth we're taught that we're owed a beautiful girl. We all think of ourselves as the hero of our own story, and we all (whether we admit it or not) think we're heroes for just getting through our day.

So it's very frustrating, and I mean frustrating to the point of violence, when we don't get what we're owed. A contract has been broken. These women, by exercising their own choices, are denying it to us. It's why every Nice Guy is shocked to find that buying gifts for a girl and doing her favors won't win him sex. It's why we go to "****" and "*****" as our default insults -- we're not mad that women enjoy sex. We're mad that women are distributing to other people the sex that they owed us.

Yes, the women in these stories are being portrayed as wonderful and beautiful and perfect. But remember, there are two ways to dehumanize someone: by dismissing them, and by idolizing them."

I think this could apply to both sexes, that many were brought up by a generation of baby boomers who instilled in us the belief that we are entitled to the 'perfect' mate, but I think it makes good points either way.

Thoughts?
Sorry, but I completely disagree with the 'hot girl' one. I was never 'taught' that. What a load. This is what happens when men spend too much time watching The Idiot Box and not being out there in the real world and thinking for themselves.

Christ, no wonder people in this society have such a massive entitlement complex!
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I saw this the other day, but hesitated about posting it because Can of Worms.

This part made me laugh:

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Right now I'm reading a book from mega-selling fantasy author George R. R. Martin. The following is a passage where he is writing from the point of view of a woman -- always a tough thing for men to do. The girl is on her way to a key confrontation, and the narrator describes it thusly:


"When she went to the stables, she wore faded sandsilk pants and woven grass sandals. Her small breasts moved freely beneath a painted Dothraki vest ..."

That's written from the woman's point of view. Yes, when a male writes a female, he assumes that she spends every moment thinking about the size of her breasts and what they are doing. "Janet walked her boobs across the city square. 'I can see them staring at my boobs,' she thought, boobily." He assumes that women are thinking of themselves the same way we think of them.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Here's a life tip for you: cracked isn't a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

One could make an article for the opposing side as well.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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and here I was thinking one-sided divorce/custody laws, the fact that men are blamed for all of womens shortcomings, the fact that men constantly get told that they should feel guilty because of how privileged they are, the fact that men get stereotyped as pedophiles/perverts/think with their dick, and pervasive misandry in the schools/media had something to do with it.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Originally Posted by DrVanNostren View Post
Great article (Warning for R-rated language):

5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com

I liked them all, but I thought this one was the best:

"We Were Told That Society Owed Us a Hot Girl

From birth we're taught that we're owed a beautiful girl. We all think of ourselves as the hero of our own story, and we all (whether we admit it or not) think we're heroes for just getting through our day.

So it's very frustrating, and I mean frustrating to the point of violence, when we don't get what we're owed. A contract has been broken. These women, by exercising their own choices, are denying it to us. It's why every Nice Guy is shocked to find that buying gifts for a girl and doing her favors won't win him sex. It's why we go to "****" and "*****" as our default insults -- we're not mad that women enjoy sex. We're mad that women are distributing to other people the sex that they owed us.

Yes, the women in these stories are being portrayed as wonderful and beautiful and perfect. But remember, there are two ways to dehumanize someone: by dismissing them, and by idolizing them."

I think this could apply to both sexes, that many were brought up by a generation of baby boomers who instilled in us the belief that we are entitled to the 'perfect' mate, but I think it makes good points either way.

Thoughts?
I don't really agree.

No one ever told me that I "deserved" a "hot" woman. If anything, I was raised at home to look beyond what was skin-deep, and general social culture has tried to convince me that a) I need to give women I don't find attractive a chance, always, no matter what, and b) I don't really deserve anything.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I saw this the other day, but hesitated about posting it because Can of Worms.

This part made me laugh:

Hilarious!!!!
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Reno, NV
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Despite pointing out the reality that some men are misogynists, it's pretty stupid to say that men expect to get the beautiful girl. Obviously, the hero gets the girl (yeah, right), but most men are never heroic and don't deserve anything. Even heroism doesn't assure anything, and anyone who claims or thinks otherwise is mentally deficient. (Of course, some men are!)
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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The author made some insightful points...

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This current of white-hot rage has to come as a surprise to some of you, because we tend to think "sexism" is being dismissive toward women, or paying them lower salaries -- we don't think of it as frenzied "burn the witch!" hatred. Yet occasionally something like this Limbaugh thing will come along to prick that balloon, and out it pours. Like it's always waiting there, a millimeter below the surface.
CD is evidence for the above. I guess the net in general is.

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Yes, the women in these stories are being portrayed as wonderful and beautiful and perfect. But remember, there are two ways to dehumanize someone: by dismissing them, and by idolizing them.
I stopped reading a little bit after this. It really makes men sound horrid and quite stupid.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Seems like a bunch of mumbo jumbo to me.
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