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Old 07-17-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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yes, it does chap my 'azz', who isn't annoyed by stuff like that? surely you take issue with some of the inherent privileges that men have but women don't?
Nope. Not even a one.

Dude, who told you life was supposed to be fair??

That's a very childish mentality - real grownups understand that it's not.

The truth is, women get away with some things easier than men - BUT - men get away with lots of things easier than women.

It all balances out in the end.

The sooner you adopt this reality, the happier you will be.

 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Corydon, IN
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Of course, if she lowers her standards enough. Thing is, it applies to men as well. Lower your standards, and you, too, can get laid by a potbellied chick with a lazy eye.


Give it up; they'll never get it because they cannot understand why the 10-woman doesn't go for their inherently good soul, while a woman can snap her fingers and ANY man is good enough, even if he looks like Uncle Ruckus.

How many times has it been stated by these same guys that all a woman has to do is lower her standards and she can get sex? They seem thoroughly unable to pull a vice-versa on this and realize that they, too, can obtain sex IF they're willing to wait until the lights are low, it's that time of the evening when the skanks and the social slugs are half-drunk and leaning on one another and looking for a warm body with whom they can scratch their urging itches. Sure, she won't be a 10 and tomorrow if you wake with her sleeping on your arm you're more likely to gnaw it off at the shoulder than risk pulling it out and waking her -- but you GOT SEX, right?

Only... that ain't fair y'all, that ain't the same.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Well somewhat disagree is certainly easier to work with than strongly disagree

Not all people find someone. That does not mean they _cant_. It just means they have not. We should be cautious about equating "have not" with "can not" in this fashion so readily when the two are very different statements indeed.

I do not think this is related only to their attractiveness but the whole package. I genuinely think that no matter how you look there is someone out there who will find you attractive. And no matter how good you think you look there will be people who do NOT find you attractive.

For example much of the male population has a thing for Angelina Jolie. I see nothing whatsoever attractive about her. Give me Björk any day instead.

Many men have a thing for Asian women. My sex drive however appears to be racist and I have never once in my life found an Asian woman attractive sexually. They simply do nothing for me on a sexual level. Similarly obese and overweight people are unattractive to me but there is a whole porn magazine industry dedicated to nothing but pictures of the much larger woman. I was even recently made aware of a whole movement of guys who are physically turned on strongly by women who have had limbs amputated.

The point of the above is not to list women I personally am not attracted to – but to evidence the fact that just because someone does not appear attractive to me or you – that does not mean they are not attractive to anyone. There is likely many people who are more than a little attracted to them. As I said I doubt there are many, if any, people who are not attractive to someone.

The trick to remember is that attractiveness is not an attribute of the person themselves – but the person who is observing. It is subjective to the observer. I might say “X is attractive” but what I am actually saying is that “X is someone I find attractive”. I am making a statement about me - not them.
Hmm, being physically turned on is more of a fetish, imo, and not an attraction to the person overall so that might not be a fair example of what one considers attractive and what another doesn't.

I have male and female friends who aren't very attractive and have actually been picky about looks when looking for a relationship. I understand completely what you're saying though. It's definitely in the eye of the beholder but let's face it, the Elephant Man was not going to attract women. That's what I'm trying to get at. There are very unattractive people out there who are not going to be found attractive by anyone. That's the more extreme unattractive but from how the OP describes himself, he seems to fit in an average category. If it's not his height or looks then there's something else that women are not flocking to.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I am in shape and groom myself regularly (short haircut, shave, all the essentials basically); I'm neither overweight nor losing my hair- at least as far as I can tell. For all those who don't know, I am 5'3" and Asian. I've made two consultations with life coaches this week, although admittedly I am a little nervous telling them about this and having them say you're a lost cause.
There's the problem. It's self esteem and how you view yourself. There's nothing wrong with your looks. A friend of mine recently got married. He's Asian, clean cut, intelligent, average looks, shorter than you. He's petite. His wife is about 3 inches taller than him. It's not the outside package that is the problem here. Are life coaches the same as licensed therapists?
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I am in shape and groom myself regularly (short haircut, shave, all the essentials basically); I'm neither overweight nor losing my hair- at least as far as I can tell. For all those who don't know, I am 5'3" and Asian. I've made two consultations with life coaches this week, although admittedly I am a little nervous telling them about this and having them say you're a lost cause.
To be brutally honest, being only 5'3" is a disadvantage for a man in the dating scene. It doesn't make things impossible, just more difficult.

Maybe finding short women to date is the way to go.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:46 AM
 
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At least you agree it is not difficult for you as a woman to get sex in a snap. Then again, what woman will admit she doesn't get sex easily?
Way to miss the WHOLE point
 
Old 07-17-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I am in shape and groom myself regularly (short haircut, shave, all the essentials basically); I'm neither overweight nor losing my hair- at least as far as I can tell. For all those who don't know, I am 5'3" and Asian. I've made two consultations with life coaches this week, although admittedly I am a little nervous telling them about this and having them say you're a lost cause.
My life coach friends would NEVER say anything like that. My life coach friends have gone through extreme depression and extremely rough times that they made it out of and now want to help others with theirs. Both were extremely obese and have completely changed their life around. Your problems to them would probably seem like a fairly easy hurdle for you to get over. Positive thinking is everything. Confidence is key to getting women. Good luck!
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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to the OP, if after trying for 6 years and failing there is only one thing you can do....change what you are doing, because its not working I know that sounds like overly simplistic advice, but doing the same things over and over and getting nowhere is futile.

Are you going for a specific type of girl? Where do you meet these women?
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Not starting this to complain or start gender debates, but just want to post a serious question. Is it incredibly uncommon for a man in his 30s to not have sex for this long, while actively (attempted to get dates, meet people in social settings, etc) trying? Is it weird enough to assume multiple defects on my part or is there anyone else in a similar situation? I don't usually discuss this with people I know (partly out of embarrassment), so I was not sure if maybe it was more common than I thought.
6 years is a long time if not by choice. I'm in my early 30s and don't think I know anyone who's gone that long.

A life coach is good for you. Can't change the physical, so figure out what can change and go from there.
 
Old 07-17-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Have a woman approach 10 men in the same settings and tell me how many will slap her and call police?

So, men are easy. This is women's problem, how?

If you don't like the standard, tell your brethren not to be so eager to put their penis in every open hole.
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