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View Poll Results: Would you be a sugar daddy, giving up a more loving, committed relationship for fresh meat?
Yes 36 30.00%
No 84 70.00%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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of course most of them will answer no, that's not surprising. the same ones claiming 'no' are the same ones that put very attactive women on a pedestal and will put up with most of the treatment they dish out. Because as I said before, men have a 'grateful' attitude towards attractive women. If they could trade places with Hugh Hefner (who is constantly used by these younger women for his money and fame, he is using them as well for their looks) most of them will do it in a heartbeat, because those girls are physically appealing. But expect them to say 'no' when it comes time for an online poll to be answered.
You don't know that.

To treat someone nice only because they look good is just riduculous. Everyone is deserving of some basic respect.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:52 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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You don't know that.

To treat someone nice only because they look good is just riduculous. Everyone is deserving of some basic respect.


That is something called life. People are treated better if they are unattractive and vice versa if they are unattractive.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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After the wild life that I've lived for the last two years, I thought nothing could surprise me anymore, but someone did and it was my 78 year old, very Catholic mother. Because she had serious health problems and was stressed additionally by the death of my father, my ex and I hid our divorce from her. We didn't want to upset her and she lives far enough away that we could easily hide things. Things are going well enough for her now that I felt the time was right. So while visiting last week I told her the whole story. She knew our marriage was a disaster and was actually relieved to hear that we ended things two years ago. She knows my ex well and they are very close, but my mother is no fool. She could see the problems and knew I was incredibly miserable for a very, very long time.

But what really set me back was when she suggested getting a high-end escort if I get too lonely. I always knew my mother and I often think alike but this one really takes the cake. She even emphasized that I need to be sure to get one that cost a lot. Man, I can't even begin to tell you how my jaw dropped. I think I just crossed over from the Wonderland to a parallel universe. Does anyone hear Rod Serling talking? I think I can...

Oh yes, my response was to bring up the song, Santa Baby [by Eartha Kitt], on You Tube, smile at her, and leave the room for coffee.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I'm 33, and I have a mildly successful career I made out if nothing. The only reason I would entertain a sugar daddy relationship is because at least it would make sense. There is very little in the game of love that makes sense to me. I am repulsed anytime I see a woman with some lazy SOB with no job, but she pledge her heart to him. She has sympathy for such a man. Yet a man who has struggled to make something of himself get's called boring and uninteresting. Maybe I sod t too much time in my younger days trying to make a career, and didn't spend enough time dating or understanding women. I just know I've never been in love, and there hasn't been woman who has been in love with me. I just know I can at least get women to sleep with me because I at least appear to have a little money.

Love, what good is it. Anytime I've tried to love a woman I've been miserable. The happiest times in my life is when I just wasted my money on clubbing and booze, and slept with a ton of women no strings attached. As I'm over the 30 mark, this does 't do it for me. I realize that as a human I have a biological need for companionship. I need a woman. But I can only get a woman to do what I want, with money holding her at gunpoint. It's the only time I've gotten any type of response from a woman.

Some guys are the guys women want, and some guys are the guys women need. A sugar daddy just does all of the dirty work. They repair a woman who waste her time dating broke losers and now she realize that maybe something more practical is important in this world. So they use men like me. But then again, I can wrap my head around it. At least it makes sense. Love doesn 't make sense.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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I'm 33, and I have a mildly successful career I made out if nothing. The only reason I would entertain a sugar daddy relationship is because at least it would make sense. There is very little in the game of love that makes sense to me. I am repulsed anytime I see a woman with some lazy SOB with no job, but she pledge her heart to him. She has sympathy for such a man. Yet a man who has struggled to make something of himself get's called boring and uninteresting. Maybe I sod t too much time in my younger days trying to make a career, and didn't spend enough time dating or understanding women. I just know I've never been in love, and there hasn't been woman who has been in love with me. I just know I can at least get women to sleep with me because I at least appear to have a little money.

Love, what good is it. Anytime I've tried to love a woman I've been miserable. The happiest times in my life is when I just wasted my money on clubbing and booze, and slept with a ton of women no strings attached. As I'm over the 30 mark, this does 't do it for me. I realize that as a human I have a biological need for companionship. I need a woman. But I can only get a woman to do what I want, with money holding her at gunpoint. It's the only time I've gotten any type of response from a woman.

Some guys are the guys women want, and some guys are the guys women need. A sugar daddy just does all of the dirty work. They repair a woman who waste her time dating broke losers and now she realize that maybe something more practical is important in this world. So they use men like me. But then again, I can wrap my head around it. At least it makes sense. Love doesn 't make sense.
I agree that women, especially young women, are often attracted to total losers. I think anyone with a high IQ has watched this from high school on. I think part of the reason for this is that women often confuse arrogance, with confidence and ability. Some guys are both arrogant and capable. But there is a lot of unjustified arrogance out there, and women fall for it every day.

Charisma is another factor. Some people are just charismatic by nature, others aren't.

But in regards to sugarbabies, I think expectations play a big role here. My impression is that many women have been trained to have unrealistic expectations. I think of it as the princess syndrome. But with a sugarbaby the compensation is financial rather than emotional, so less is expected of the man in emotional terms. This resets the dynamic of the relationship and establishes an entirely new set of ground rules that I find to be more enjoyable than those of a traditional relationship. This assumes of course that you still grow to care about each other, as was often the case in arranged marriages. The danger comes with situations like mine where the emotional involvement is highly asymetrical. I'm probably doomed to have my heart broken, but that's okay. I consider that a better option than not having what I have right now.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Absolutely. I go years without having even a successful conversation with women.

And not all sugar babies are vapid morons. Lots of actresses, models and struggling college graduates looking for "help."
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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well...I don't know his exact age but he's more than a few years older than me. We met on a site that's specifically for SBs and SDs. PS LOTS of johns on that site looking for discount escorts, don't fall for it ladies. We just started the arrangement so I haven't traveled with him yet...but he compensates me generously for the convenience of this situation and hanging out with him for a few hours. I couldn't see him in normal relationship, he's too much of a workaholic.
The discounts are there because there are far more sugar babies than sugar daddies. They have expectations of some sort of support but then eventually settle for paid dates.
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I've been a camgirl, and had a lot of repeat guys very interested and adoring of me. I pretended to like them a lot. But it was all an act. Inside I was thinking of how ugly and old this guy is, and what a nasty pervert he is. I'm sure a lot of other sex trade girls are thinking the same thing. So men, when you think of how fine and dandy your time with a hoe was, do be aware it was not real, and she would certainly not be acting the same if you were broke.
What's the nastiest thing you've done on camera?
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Yes, I am aware of that, certainly -- but I also honestly believe that the camgirl lifestyle actually hurts women, emotionally and psychologically; that it is not healthy. Maybe if you think of it this way: is it really something that you would want your (hypothetical) daughter, or (hypothetical) sister or mother, doing? I would of course imagine not. My point is, these women, these camgirls, are somebody's daughter...somebody's mother...somebody's sister. It is degrading and dehumanizing, for women to have to be treated and objectified, this way...except that the performers themselves' inhibitions have been so lowered and minimized to the extent where they may not even see, really just how potentially destructive this lifestyle can be, to them...and so I feel nothing but sadness, for these young women who are working as camgirls...
I also couldn't imagine my mother or sister picking crops but I guess someone has to do it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It would depend on my circumstances, and the character of any potential sugar baby. I would never be a sugar daddy while I was involved in a another relationship. However, I wouldn't have any problem with such an arrangement if that was the only relationship in which I was participating. I would also expect that the sugar baby be working towards a goal in her life, as opposed to simply wanting to be "kept" economically.
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