So how does an Omega male even start a relationship? (female, attracted)
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If viewing the dating world through that lens is working for you, by all means carry on. As an average-looking average-income guy who regularly dates attractive, intelligent women, I'm going to keep doing what works for me, too. What works for me includes the certainty that everything you just said is a complete load of horsesh*t. To each his own.
Fleet, people seem to only dismiss "science" when it does not confirm their deeply held beliefs. For example, bonobos have gay sex, which no heterosexual or homosexual has a problem pointing to to argue and justify their belief in homosexuality being an amoral issue for humans. Likewise, I've sat in physical anthropology classes, and a biology class, to hear professors in lectures state that humans are nothing more than a species of apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. No one bats an eye at that. Physical anthropologist also include in "modern humans" species of primates now extinct that look like hairy bonobos. No one bats an eye. In fact, if it confirms there view on sex so long as it contradicts religious mores on sex, then they accept if not champion these views. A few atheists in the sciences and liberal arts object to some of these propositions by scientists because they're a little sharper than the rest of us and no where this logically leads to.
It is part logically leads to refuting your dismissal of some of the logical propositions of the OP.
People dismiss the OP's points--or get upset, like a Creationist does over the Theory of Evolution--because it is their deeply held belief that males can easily attract females and its always the male's fault if he does not. Like everyone knows Adam and Eve where the first people on earth and the world was created in 6 days, so to everyone knows women just want a loving, nice guy, that simply helps provide for a potential family should could create with him.
Anyways, I do think Ruth makes good point in points #1 and #2 about not buying and listening to things aimed at making you feel bad about yourself. And while I like commercials (they can be well crafted, an art in themselves, and entertaining) I do get tired of all the bombardments of advertizing 24/7. Someone is always trying to sale you this or that and talk you into this or that. Something is always supposedly going to make your life better.
Anyways, BradPiff, I get inspired when I listen to Gordon Gekko. Greed is not only good but it's going to save this malfunctioning corporation called the USofA he says. Evolutionary style he says. Greed of women is also good if you want to spread your genes across the earth. And according to gene-centric brilliant minds like Richard Dawkins, we don't matter, only our genes matter, we are only lumbering robots they use to spread themselves. Dawkin's is no fan of the Pope needless to say.
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Fleet, people seem to only dismiss "science" when it does not confirm their deeply held beliefs. For example, bonobos have gay sex, which no heterosexual or homosexual has a problem pointing to to argue and justify their belief in homosexuality being an amoral issue for humans. Likewise, I've sat in physical anthropology classes, and a biology class, to hear professors in lectures state that humans are nothing more than a species of apes. Apes. Apes. Apes. No one bats an eye at that. Physical anthropologist also include in "modern humans" species of primates now extinct that look like hairy bonobos. No one bats an eye. In fact, if it confirms there view on sex so long as it contradicts religious mores on sex, then they accept if not champion these views. A few atheists in the sciences and liberal arts object to some of these propositions by scientists because they're a little sharper than the rest of us and no where this logically leads to.
Indeed the, 'it's natural and thus acceptable because animals do it' argument would mean we would have to do other things animals do and accept them, like commit murder and infanticide.
rejecting the whole hiearchy thing, omegas ground alphas.
the whole yin and yang dynamic.
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