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Old 07-11-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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The average black man doesn't like fat women he just settles for it since 80% of black women are overweight. Only broke men go only after fat girls. Its no coincidence that when black men get rich and famous, they don't go after fat women including not going after any fat white women despite the stereotypes to the contrary.
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Your statement is off base; I doubt you know any average or rich/famous black men on which to base these offensive stereotypes.
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I never said black men "like fat women."

Are you suggesting Alica Keys is fat?

Mariah Carey married a black man with money and fame and she was no skinny woman when he married her. He had to know she was going to get bigger after getting pregnant.
What blacks and whites consider "fat" are often two very different things. Furthermore, whites tend to grossly underestimate what a healthy weight is. There's a reason black women have a much lower risk and rate of eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia than white women. In general, blacks (and Hispanics) have a much broader and realistic sense of what constitutes a healthy weight and broader, more flexible notions of beauty, and they have fewer body image issues to show for it than white people. If you want a quick example of this, white teenagers will say Beyonce has a big ass and fat legs, black teenagers won't. However, black teenagers will call out Angelina Jolie as being emaciated and white teenagers won't.

Well, the black teenagers would be right in both instances. Beyonce is not fat, and Angelina Jolie needs to eat a damn sandwich.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:37 PM
 
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Halfway.

Women are told from Day One that it's all about youth and beauty. They are hammered from every available outlet about how wrinkles, gray hair, cellulite, sagging this, blemished that, imperfect the other is basically a kiss of death, and how women's looks and bodies are their commodities to barter with and trade to be successful in love and life. As most women are not pageant queens with perfect skin, hair, or body, it tends to do a number on their view of themselves.

The ironic part is that most men I know don't even want all of that in a woman in the first place. The only men I see harping on how men are attracted to youth and beauty are the handful of sexist loudmouths here on this forum who can't resist an opportunity to try to make either passive-aggressive or overtly hostile swipes at the women here, most of whom have had far more success in love and relationships than those dolts could ever hope to have. I've never heard men yammer on about all of that in real life before. Ever.

As for men thinking they are better looking than they are, that comes back to the messages they receive from every outlet from Day One, especially if they are white. By and large, white men still have advantages that men of color and women at large do not have. Wealth and power are still concentrated in the hands of white men, and they are still raised with the notion that the world is their oyster. Overall and very generally speaking, that instills in them a sense of entitlement that men of color and women at large just do not have. Things are changing, sure, but it's a long, long road. The point is that when you have that kind of entitlement and privilege because of your gender and color, and you're not judged on them, you tend not to worry about your looks and your appearance the way people who are judged on those things do.

I'm sure this will tick off a lot of the people here who see themselves in this, but frankly, I'm past caring.
Unattractive women get called beautiful, sexy, etc. all the time. Most of their friends are calling them gorgeous every time they go out. Even on facebook, average to below average looking women can get 10 likes, 20 comments on every picture of theirs. There is nobody calling average or ugly looking guys sexy.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Flav????
Yes flav. He is oh so sexy with his big ol'clock and grill.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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Yes flav. He is oh so sexy with his big ol'clock and grill.
I am turned on when he also wears his horn hat, yum.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Unattractive women get called beautiful, sexy, etc. all the time. Most of their friends are calling them gorgeous every time they go out. Even on facebook, average to below average looking women can get 10 likes, 20 comments on every picture of theirs. There is nobody calling average or ugly looking guys sexy.
Yeah...'pity likes' are awesome. And that's all they are. I've noticed that ugly women can actually get MORE attention from other women on FB and the like because they feel sorry for her and want her to feel good about herself. It's pity.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Yes flav. He is oh so sexy with his big ol'clock and grill.
Sorry, couldn't resist - just playin'

Something about Flav just makes me grin.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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Yeah...'pity likes' are awesome. And that's all they are. I've noticed that ugly women can actually get MORE attention from other women on FB and the like because they feel sorry for her and want her to feel good about herself. It's pity.
Ugly men don't get pity, they just get hate or worse they get indifference. I always thought it was white knights that pumped up the egos of girls, but I noticed that most of the attention that women receive on facebook come from their female peers. I'm not really sure why, maybe their friends truly believe that she is sexy.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Yes. I have seen so many unattractive men complain about not being able to get model beautiful women. I once had a friend get upset with online dating because he wasn't attracting women he felt he deserved. He was very obese (around 400 pounds), about 5'9, smelly, 40, underemployed and lived with his parents. He was looking for a woman around 25 who was around his height or shorter, thin with big boobs and preferably blonde. He turned down a woman who was chubby because she was chubby (though he was obese). Haven't seen him in years but he's either still single and complaining or lowered his standards.
Some men go about shopping for women as if they're buying a Teddy Bear. "I want the one that looks like a big Barbie, mom!"

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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Ugly men don't get pity, they just get hate or worse they get indifference. I always thought it was white knights that pumped up the egos of girls, but I noticed that most of the attention that women receive on facebook come from their female peers. I'm not really sure why, maybe their friends truly believe that she is sexy.
You sound upset that women would compliment each other. When you know someone and love them as a friend - they probably appear more attractive to you than they would to a complete stranger. And a lot of friends like to make each other feel good. Guys don't tell each other how attractive they are. They compliment each other in other ways. I wouldn't judge a person's self esteem based on how many of her girlfriends tell her that she looks sexy. Like pretty much everyone else has said, we are taught as women that a lot of our worth rests in how attractive we are. It only makes sense that we would spend more time worrying about our looks. Men are taught that their value rests in how much money they make - so they worry more about making a living.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Ugly men don't get pity, they just get hate or worse they get indifference. I always thought it was white knights that pumped up the egos of girls, but I noticed that most of the attention that women receive on facebook come from their female peers. I'm not really sure why, maybe their friends truly believe that she is sexy.
Because women aren't afraid of letting other women know their feelings. Men do the same and they're called 'gay' or otherwise made fun of. That's an issue to work out between you men, it has nothing to do with women. Ugly women don't get support from men so many of them rely on their female friends for that bit of self esteem boosting.
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