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No, I would say the vast majority of women are not like that. Please show me a post where a woman claims that men should pay for everything when their incomes are comparable. I think this is just another misogynistic myth perpetuated by wanna-be bodybuilders and PUAs
Yes, the way you and your friends act contradicts the experiences of most men.
why yes, if you are weathly and flashy about it people will flock to you to use you for your money. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out nor does it imply any of the women fawning over the flashy rich guys are actually interested in those guys.
why yes, if you are weathly and flashy about it people will flock to you to use you for your money. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out nor does it imply any of the women fawning over the flashy rich guys are actually interested in those guys.
Yup! Flocking to money is different than flocking to the person.
Once the money is gone... so will be everyone else.
Again, show me where ANY woman has said that men should pay for everything with their incomes are comparable.
Here's one:
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Originally Posted by mrskay662000
I want a guy who can pay. If my not paying is a "character flaw, rude, selfish and cheap behavior", then let me tell you what I think about "men" like you...
They are EXTREMELY selfish, cheap, immature, broke, lame and they are terrible prospects for LTRs because "they" can not provide.
Of course I can pay my own way. But will I pay YOUR way too?
Heck no.
I like men.
Not miserly children.
Every single "man" I've dated who held your views never had a good long term relationship with a woman. What I can and can not pay for is irrelevant. What you can or can not afford is irrelevant. If you can't afford the "dates" then you're either broke, or boring because you can't find an interesting and low cost date, or both.
...but let's be serious here...we know that one post isn't gonna make a difference, and as much time as I spend on here, I'm not gonna go digging up posts all day. Besides, we've seen that conversation in about 100 other threads:
"Well, that's just one woman"
"She didn't say EVERYTHING!"
"Well, she makes 2% less, so it's different"
...or whatever.
Everyone can go back and forth about their views, but these are things that I maintain anyone would be hard pressed to argue:
1) Money as a factor of attraction is a thing.
2) It's significant enough of a thing for it to affect men's dating lives
3) Not all women are influenced by money
4) Men have biased factors of attraction towards women as well that women would be equally justified in complaining about
It's understandable if you're sick of hearing men complain about it. I feel the same way about some of the women's threads about men's questionable behavior. But I'm not gonna march in there and argue that they don't exist, I know they do. I choose not to subscribe to a lot of stereotypically questionable male behavior. And some of it, I do.
If you feel that biased forms of attraction are hypocritical because men do the same thing, then mention so. But denying that it exists is just ignorant.
Someone could go and make a video of a woman in a "fat suit" getting rejected by a man for her looks and then come back conventionally "hot" without the fat suit and then criticize how he changes his mind too... saying men only care about hot women and nothing else. But that doesn't make it universally true because one guy in an edited prank, entertainment video did that... same here.
Exactly! Let's see the average man on the street being approached by an overweight woman versus a thin one and see what we wind up with. And the video bits are skewered anyway because the women aren't necessarily reacting to the wealth associated with an expensive car but rather the perception that's associated with them. It's not materialistic, it's practical and part of how the human instinct mechanism works.
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Originally Posted by 14Bricks
And yet most women still expect the man to pay for everything because that's the "mans job".
Really? Even when I was actively dating thirty years ago that wasn't true. And my sons current girlfriend rejects his attempts to "take care" of her; she let him know from the beginning that she could take care of herself, and she's only fifteen.
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