Are ugly men seens as creeps towards women? (couple, conversation, reasons)
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The guys with wives wanted to stare but had wives with them and didn't want to offend her. The single guys didnt have wives so they could leer...and they did.
That is the creepy part, see.
That if the men with wives had been there alone, they all would've stared like idiots.
If those guys had stolen glances, even given her a smile and an appreciative nod, I don't think that's creepy.
But, staring and all slackjawed? Yeah... creepy. But, some chicks dig being stared at. Self esteem issues and/or they are just used to it because it happens all the time.
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No, silly. I was trying to think of reasons (besides sex) that men who don't like women might want to date women. I have heard many Struggling Guys™ here angsting about not having a girlfriend because they didn't want anyone to think they were gay. I think that is a real fear for certain types of men.
Are there any women you are friendly with? Do you simply not like them? This is something I find it hard to understand. How can you go through life without being close to a single relative or other person of the opposite sex? I seems like a deliberate act rather than an accident of circumstance.
yeah... that does strike me as incredibly peculiar.
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Your quote: It's because he's staring at someone who clearly doesn't want to be stared at... THAT IS CREEPY: end quote.
I believe you made my point, When you make social rules or laws that leave it up to a person to decide what is ok or not is running into trouble, obviously if a girl doesn't want a guy staring at her that behavior is not ok, but the same behavior should also not be ok for anyone, even the cute guy she wants attention from. Which isn't your agrument, unless im misunderstanding you?
I am saying that staring is generally not a good idea, but if you get caught looking at someone and they start looking back in an appreciative way, you are probably going to wind up approaching one another and you can quit staring and start talking so the point is moot, no?
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Because you could give out such awesome advice, man?
LOL.
Maybe not, but I know what is counterproductive, and the last several pages are exactly that.
Thankfully, it sounds like mtnborn knows better than the "just be friends first" approach.
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