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Old 09-16-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Everyone talks about how brilliant the Hannah Gadsby "Nanette" special was. It was really intense and raw, but it wasn't a comedy special. I wasn't really prepared for what it was. She had some really great points about what comedy is, and how she can turn a story into a drunk guy thinking she was a man into a joke, when what really happened was that she got brutally beat up. Sometimes I think I should go back and rewatch it, but it was just too much.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Everyone talks about how brilliant the Hannah Gadsby "Nanette" special was. It was really intense and raw, but it wasn't a comedy special. I wasn't really prepared for what it was. She had some really great points about what comedy is, and how she can turn a story into a drunk guy thinking she was a man into a joke, when what really happened was that she got brutally beat up. Sometimes I think I should go back and rewatch it, but it was just too much.
Yep, it felt like a bait and switch to me. I feel bad for her but it wasn't a comedy show. It was really more of a one woman show type of thing. I've heard a lot of similar comments to yours.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Everyone talks about how brilliant the Hannah Gadsby "Nanette" special was. It was really intense and raw, but it wasn't a comedy special. I wasn't really prepared for what it was. She had some really great points about what comedy is, and how she can turn a story into a drunk guy thinking she was a man into a joke, when what really happened was that she got brutally beat up. Sometimes I think I should go back and rewatch it, but it was just too much.
Yes. I could tell at times she was hitting the humor button (something about a man with "an opinion" comes to mind) but it was seriously real and raw and while she has my sympathies, if I'm looking for a stand up comedy experience, I'm definitely not looking for...that.

Especially since I already know many people who have had experiences like what she talks about, so this isn't really...a new perspective or new information to me. Like maybe someone needs to hear what she is saying, I'm not saying she shouldn't say it. But it's a message that I'm already quite familiar with.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Yep, it felt like a bait and switch to me. I feel bad for her but it wasn't a comedy show. It was really more of a one woman show type of thing. I've heard a lot of similar comments to yours.
And that's how it should be labeled.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm tired of male comedians talking about porn and masturbation, and female comedians attacking men throughout the whole show. We watched Katherine Ryan's "Glitter Room," and I can't remember if I even cracked a smile. Omg, just feminist point after feminist point. That's fine if you want to talk about that, but it gets old in a "comedy" show.

Also forgot to mention Ryan Hamilton. He's good, too. I'm trying to think of ones who work pretty clean. A lot of people really get turned off by foul language.

If you don't like "edgy" comedy, stay away from Anthony Jeselnik.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I did enjoy some of Gadsby's points on sexism and art history--like how we romanticize the greatness Picasso and Van Gogh, even though they weren't great people or great men and were dealing with some pretty serious mental health issues. But at that point she wasn't telling jokes.

Just generally, a lot of that old gender war stuff (like "women, amirite fellas?" or "men, amirite ladies?") is just tired. One of my favorite John Mulaney bits is when he's talking about other men talking smack about their wives and he says something like, "yeah, my wife is a B, and I like her *so much*."
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Comedy is definitely a subjective art form. I've heard people trash Norm MacDonald, describing him as unfunny. Some people think Andre Dice Clay is funny.

My personal all-time faves are Murphy, Izzard, Pryor, Chappelle, and Carlin, in no particular order.
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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See I don't even like Carlin, at least...later Carlin. He became way too nihilistic and cynical for my taste.

I used to enjoy Lewis Black but like...I begin to wonder if he's getting too old to be getting safely all worked up like that. I notice he's doing a lot less comedy work than he used to like 10+ years ago. I liked Bill Hicks, too, but that was also a long time ago. I enjoyed Craig Ferguson's stand up, but I also think he's hot, so... *shrug* I loved Robin Williams (grew up on Mork & Mindy!)

I don't need my comedy to be "clean" I just prefer that it be silly and/or smart...and not necessarily based on trying to relate to some everyman by complaining about various standard-issue grievances it is imagined that everybody has. And for crying out loud, if they're going to do a TV special every time they go on the road, they need to come up with new material, not just vomit out the same tired old repetitive jokes over and over, year after year, like the Blue Collar Comedy guys did. Ugh. I don't know how many years running they televised their tours, and it was just the same old crap. Or Jeff Dunham, that was bad, too. Over and over just milkin' that same routine...
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Comedy is definitely a subjective art form. I've heard people trash Norm MacDonald, describing him as unfunny. Some people think Andre Dice Clay is funny.

My personal all-time faves are Murphy, Izzard, Pryor, Chappelle, and Carlin, in no particular order.
I think Norm MacDonald is ridiculously funny.
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Comedy is definitely a subjective art form. I've heard people trash Norm MacDonald, describing him as unfunny. Some people think Andre Dice Clay is funny.

My personal all-time faves are Murphy, Izzard, Pryor, Chappelle, and Carlin, in no particular order.

Same comedic taste, I can still add Louis CK, even more so Chappelle making fun of Louis CKs stupidity.
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:53 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Same comedic taste, I can still add Louis CK, even more so Chappelle making fun of Louis CKs stupidity.
I still like CK, or Székely as his original Hungarian name. I knew about his creepy behavior before the whole me too movement, same with Terry Richardson and many, many other famous, talented perverts. Pay to play is how Hollywood was built, everyone knew it they just didn't talk about it. And not everything was consensual - a young Natalie Wood was brutalized by Kirk Douglas at the Chateau Marmont, and her own parents delivered her to him. This town is full of ugly.

My son's favorite CK jokes are 'folding a bowling ball' and 'but that's not my FAVORITE way!'
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