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Old 01-02-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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That's definitely sexist, and wrong.
Yeah, all the time women complain that men don't do enough to help raise the children and when they do they get stifled for it, very ironic, huh? I wonder if, in the future if you see more women making money while working lots of hours to provide while the men takes care of the children if, in the case of divorce if men would start being more likely to get primary custody? Of course if that happens I am sure women would complain saying "But I spent so much time and effort to provide, why can't I get it?" making them feel the same as men always have.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Judging someone by their job is so shallow to me. Why not get to know them as a person and if you still aren't into them then end it.

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Old 01-02-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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Yeah, all the time women complain that men don't do enough to help raise the children and when they do they get stifled for it, very ironic, huh? I wonder if, in the future if you see more women making money while working lots of hours to provide while the men takes care of the children if, in the case of divorce if men would start being more likely to get primary custody? Of course if that happens I am sure women would complain saying "But I spent so much time and effort to provide, why can't I get it?" making them feel the same as men always have.


Women are just the worst, amirite, OP?
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Hypergamy can be a factor. Women are less likely to date down in terms of income etc.
And men are less likely to date down in terms of looks...so I guess it all works out, for THEM.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Interesting perspective, I came from a family who women often were the bread winners. My mom was not due to physical disability but she did eventually out earned my dad through her own business. I didn't want to marry up or down financially, but an equal and that's exactly what I've got. When I was younger I did out earned most of my peers so I didn't expect much in terms of future mate. But I was not interested in any bums either.
My mom told me to take typing in high school so I'd "always have something to fall back on". I ended up getting a master's degree. I've not had a SO make more than maybe 10% more than me - and several have made far less. Maybe it was role reversal - as long as they could cover their own expenses (therefore, weren't "bums") it really didn't matter much if they fulfilled the other things I was looking for personality-wise.
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Old 01-02-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: The Jerz (NJ)
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That's definitely sexist, and wrong.
It is. When my ex took 6 weeks of FMLA to care for our son when I returned from maternity leave, he got all sorts of flack. I don't know why people think rearing children is only for the women. I mean the man had 50% responsibility in creating it, so I think he should be responsible for 50% of its care!

My current employer just extended paid maternity leave to 12 weeks and created a paternity leave program that is for 6 weeks at full pay. It's refreshing to see companies getting with the times. The millenials have made it clear that men and women should be equally responsible for the care of their children and their homes.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:16 AM
 
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And men are less likely to date down in terms of looks...so I guess it all works out, for THEM.
True but the question was about jobs.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:24 AM
 
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Judged by whom?

Society? Who cares?

Potential mates? If they are so judgey then why would you want to be with them?

People probably judge me because I'm 43, single, and live in a teensy apartment with my cat. IDGAF. My life is, as a whole, pretty good, all things considered, and I'm doing my own thing.

If more people lived their own truth instead of caring so much about what others think, their lives would be much easier.
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:30 AM
 
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Who is judging them?
A lot of people.

For instance if an unambitious male dates a successful female and it becomes serious leading to marriage, the people who judge the man tends to be the females' parents, close friends, siblings, and her co-workers.

I'll even use myself for example. Not only am I judged by the women whom I date, but I'm even judged by people who I graduated with, the members I deal with, people I meet outside of work, and even ex-employees who I bump into.

Throughout my life I've gotten the following comments

'Do you plan to do this the rest of your life?'
'You still here?'
'Why don't you move up and become management?'
'You're better than this'
'You're wasting your life'

Again, it's not just from females I date, but it's from various factions as I stated above. I didn't even include my parents because it's almost a given that they want you to do well. Men are expected to have some ambition, not just collect a paycheck, which is what I basically do. Men definitely are judged more harshly all around when it comes to careers.
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:03 AM
 
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A lot of people.

For instance if an unambitious male dates a successful female and it becomes serious leading to marriage, the people who judge the man tends to be the females' parents, close friends, siblings, and her co-workers.

I'll even use myself for example. Not only am I judged by the women whom I date, but I'm even judged by people who I graduated with, the members I deal with, people I meet outside of work, and even ex-employees who I bump into.

Throughout my life I've gotten the following comments

'Do you plan to do this the rest of your life?'
'You still here?'
'Why don't you move up and become management?'
'You're better than this'
'You're wasting your life'

Again, it's not just from females I date, but it's from various factions as I stated above. I didn't even include my parents because it's almost a given that they want you to do well. Men are expected to have some ambition, not just collect a paycheck, which is what I basically do. Men definitely are judged more harshly all around when it comes to careers.
Are you satisfied, though?

I'm not going to ask if you are happy. I think anyone who says they are happy all the time either has a screw loose or is on some seriously awesome medication.

But all things considered, are you OK with who you are?
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