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Well, then consider how that attitude is working in real life too.
Works fine in real life if you're not obnoxious about it because you can convey an idea and people are less apt to be snarky and dismissive because they actually have to have a conversation and look immature if they rely on snark and other online tactics.
Why is this about millennial women? Independent, working women has been a widespread phenomenon in American society since roughly the 1970's or 80's. Men since that time have been evaluated for their character and personality (though IMO they always were, but maybe the emphasis back before then was on earning power). That covers the Boomers and Gen X, as well as the Millennials. Are you implying that men would prefer to be viewed as walking bank accounts, rather than more holistically, as (hopefully) fairly well-rounded human beings? What exactly is the complaint, here?
I have no idea what you're talking about. The point is that the way millennials are raised has increased the level of entitlement drastically in people and it effects the dating market and how people post on the internet. . Rbbcl had only mentioned millennial men.
I agree that some men are baffled that having their ish together doesn't equate to a beautiful woman. Then when they realize they have to also be dancing entertainment clowns to hold some of today's millennial women's attention, frustration can really set in.
However, if you think millennial women aren't entitled in their belief in what type of man they deserve simply because they don't need a man, you're conflating two separate topics. If anything, the freedom afforded to women by no longer needing men for support has increased the level of entitlement and expectations in millennial women.
Agreed I don't want to pick on Millennials.
Once again, the question proposed- by a man I might add- is why are there more whiny men here, who complain about not having relationships. Young men... That's what my answer is directed towards. I'm trying to stay on topic, and yet, ironically, you seem to be providing a perfect example of how it keeps getting turned around to complaining about women, how it's women who are the problem. How it's their fault.
Can you get away from that, provide some suggestions for these men, or is it your position that this isn't a problem, it's just Women perceiving it as complaining, even though a man proposed the idea?
I have no idea what you're talking about. The point is that the way millennials are raised has increased the level of entitlement drastically in people and it effects the dating market and how people post on the internet. . Rbbcl had only mentioned millennial men.
This tells me you're not getting the point of the discussion as it's evolved. Oh well. In any case, my response was in part, addressing this:
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Originally Posted by RedWings18;
I agree that some men are baffled that having their ish together doesn't equate to a beautiful woman. Then when they realize they have to also be dancing entertainment clowns to hold some of today's millennial women's attention, frustration can really set in.
It's nothing new. If guys think all they need is a decent job to attract a woman, they're several generations behind the times, which is very puzzling.
Once again, the question proposed- by a man I might add- is why are there more whiny men here, who complain about not having relationships. Young men... That's what my answer is directed towards. I'm trying to stay on topic, and yet, ironically, you seem to be providing a perfect example of how it keeps getting turned around to complaining about women, how it's women who are the problem. How it's their fault.
Can you get away from that, provide some suggestions for these men, or is it your position that this isn't a problem, it's just Women perceiving it as complaining, even though a man proposed the idea?
Lmao you always do this. I don't know why I even engage. You brought up millennial men and women. And then when challenged you say that "you're off topic." Smh. Impossible with you. You can't make points and then refuse to discuss your position when challenged by hiding behind "off topic" Lollll
I am not complaining. I am challenging YOUR assertion that millennial women are not entitled. I already explained my position in a previous post on this thread on why I think there are many of these types of threads.
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No you really didn't, because you just had to add that it increases a woman's "entitlement and expectations" which is intimating that the woman is being unreasonable.
The word entitlement has negative connotations, especially now (millennials). When people talk about others (religion, race, ethnicity, gender, etc.) poor choice of words (or maybe it is exactly as meant) will alienate the other side.
If you are genuinely trying for understanding, this is just shooting yourself in the foot. Otherwise, is just advertises your disdain for the group you are talking about.
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No you really didn't, because you just had to add that it increases a woman's "entitlement and expectations" which is intimating that the woman is being unreasonable.
The word entitlement has negative connotations, especially now (millennials). When people talk about others (religion, race, ethnicity, gender, etc.) poor choice of words (or maybe it is exactly as meant) will alienate the other side.
If you are genuinely trying for understanding, this is just shooting yourself in the foot. Otherwise, is just advertises your disdain for the group you are talking about.
Great points. Which is why then you should agree that when you tell guys they're entitled for feeling frustrated with their dating success or lack there of it, they grow bitter.
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