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I agree with Sonic_Spork's post, in reverse. I like chains and hole-in-the-wall family places. I am not artsy or hip, and someone who is looking for that isn't looking for me
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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla
I went to Olive Garden with a date one time and he thought it was way over-priced.
He must not have taken full advantage of the unlimited soup and bread sticks lol
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Originally Posted by Bearsdad
No olive gardens here. And not $50 a plate unless over in DC or Baltimore and then much more. Pretty much longhorn, outback, Texas roadhouse, NEW or anyplace similar is going to be $20-30 a plate. Appetizers and a couple drinks with tip, figure $100.
Outback is over $20/plate now?? Not worth it to me. How about Applebee's, Friday's, etc.
There's always Panera.. kind of halfway between dinner and coffee lol
I agree with Sonic_Spork's post, in reverse. I like chains and hole-in-the-wall family places. I am not artsy or hip, and someone who is looking for that isn't looking for me
He must not have taken full advantage of the unlimited soup and bread sticks lol
Outback is over $20/plate now?? Not worth it to me. How about Applebee's, Friday's, etc.
There's always Panera.. kind of halfway between dinner and coffee lol
And I think we'd be able to tell from one's dating profile, if they were the "hip and artsy" type or not so much. I do like some hole-in-the-wall places, but I love most when there is character of some kind. There was a dingy all night diner in Covington, KY back when I was younger that was just fun. Very hole-in-the-wall. My preferences also don't need to be expensive. Personally I think that Starbucks is overpriced. I guess if one is into fancy flavored coffee, which I'm not, then it's ok. But their regular ol' cuppa Joe isn't that stellar and costs too much.
I do like Panera, though! That mac & cheese...*drool*...
Can you guys tell I didn't eat lunch?
Oh, for those who do the coffee or drinks dates, there's another option I'd add to that list, for those of us with a sweet tooth, the ice cream outing. I love those! The only down side, is unless you take your ice cream out to a park or something, at some of those places you'll have families with kids coming and going and being noisy and interrupting your date conversation.
Oh that's another consideration I find to be very important. Noise levels. In my opinion, the main purpose of a first date is conversation. If you can't hear yourself think, let alone talk, that's a bad thing.
I've jumped into online dating. I found one man I haven't yet met in person miffed because I wasn't able to speak on the phone with him when he wanted (though I told him it was because I took a day trip and I did accommodate him 2 previous times.)
And a second one tells me we had plans tonight, which I don't remember- we didn't set a time, I thought it was a maybe. And when I said let's meet tomorrow evening at 5 , he told me he was blocking me because this happens a lot.
I was truly interested in meeting these men- why do they expect so much when we haven't even met? Thoughts? What have your experiences been? Men are just not confident or patient these days it seems. (at least most of the ones I'm coming across.) Where is the entitlement coming from?
I hated that about online dating. Your first story reminds me of one man I never did meet in person but met online. We arranged a first date and he cancelled because his daughter was sick. So then we tried to reschedule, I suggested a date and time, that didn't work for him so he suggested a different date and time that didn't work for me. Suddenly, because a date and time didn't work for me (for a rescheduled date that he cancelled) he accused me of "playing games" and not being serious about dating. He went off on a rant. I said, "we're done" and blocked him. No wonder that man is divorced.
But for the most part, most men were okay. But most weren't a good match for me or me for them, but they were okay people.
I hated that about online dating. Your first story reminds me of one man I never did meet in person but met online. We arranged a first date and he cancelled because his daughter was sick. So then we tried to reschedule, I suggested a date and time, that didn't work for him so he suggested a different date and time that didn't work for me. Suddenly, because a date and time didn't work for me (for a rescheduled date that he cancelled) he accused me of "playing games" and not being serious about dating. He went off on a rant. I said, "we're done" and blocked him. No wonder that man is divorced.
Some people will label anything they don't like as "games".
Yes, you found out why he's divorced. He'd be lucky to even get some women to talk to him in the first place. I would never agree to date single dads. I would have blocked him even if he weren't rude. He's probably looking for a woman to be his free babysitter service.
OLD is very frustrating from a man's point of view. What you are probably seeing is a guy who goes thru this time after time.
I had a couple rules. Burn phone so no nutjobs had my real number. One email in response to their ad, then move on. If communication abruptly stopped, no more conversation from me. Stood up (never happened but just in case) no more communication. And last of all NEVER bother someone or appear needy.
Similar to my own practices back in the day.
-No burn phone, but I didn't give out my number very readily (and this was pre-smart phones, so texting wasn't as common, but AIM and other such direct messaging served much the same purpose...no endless streams of AIM checking in, if there didn't appear to be legitimate interest/participation).
-Kept it reciprocal, 1:1 back and forth. If communication dropped off, no pestering, or "Hey, what's up?" You know where to find me.
-I did get stood up, a couple of times (maybe guys are more prone to that), but absolutely no further engaging if that happens.
-BIG on never appearing needy.
OLD wasn't that frustrating for me, but it did require persevering and being choosy about who to actually meet.
-No burn phone, but I didn't give out my number very readily (and this was pre-smart phones, so texting wasn't as common, but AIM and other such direct messaging served much the same purpose...no endless streams of AIM checking in, if there didn't appear to be legitimate interest/participation).
-Kept it reciprocal, 1:1 back and forth. If communication dropped off, no pestering, or "Hey, what's up?" You know where to find me.
-I did get stood up, a couple of times (maybe guys are more prone to that), but absolutely no further engaging if that happens.
-BIG on never appearing needy.
OLD wasn't that frustrating for me, but it did require persevering and being choosy about who to actually meet.
Yes, this is what I'm learning now. I need to be choosy in who I actually meet- quality over quantity. The numbers game is a waste of time. Very difficult to find someone attractive, confident, kind, intelligent, sober, who has their act together and is interested in me too. I need to work on myself a little too and maybe get new pictures and re start the search. . .oh and wait to give my phone number out. (Maybe after a first or second meeting.)
Don't give your real number out... use a burner number. Many options.... From physical phones (prepaid / freedompop types) to virtual numbers (google voice and burnerapp). I even give one out for work related contacts.
I've jumped into online dating. I found one man I haven't yet met in person miffed because I wasn't able to speak on the phone with him when he wanted (though I told him it was because I took a day trip and I did accommodate him 2 previous times.)
And a second one tells me we had plans tonight, which I don't remember- we didn't set a time, I thought it was a maybe. And when I said let's meet tomorrow evening at 5 , he told me he was blocking me because this happens a lot.
I was truly interested in meeting these men- why do they expect so much when we haven't even met? Thoughts? What have your experiences been? Men are just not confident or patient these days it seems. (at least most of the ones I'm coming across.) Where is the entitlement coming from?
Women like to ghost and play hard to get. Even attractive accomplished men feel like they have to pounce on everything because so much of what comes their way is garbage. Yes, garbage. I don't like saying that about people, but most of what I encounter through OLD are people not being serious, taking advantage, and then ghosting.
While I don't know the details, you should be flattered that someone has taken a dedicated interest in you. I've shelled out a lot of money on women who suddenly just disappear for no reason...once they've had their fun, if we are being real. I've also had people agree to a date through OLD platforms, and then not show up or ghost in the run-up. It's really pathetic. I think it's a Millennial thing too, I'm sorry to say.
All this stuff happens with any kind of dating tho......but ita.
Sure, but technology has increased the degree of intensity of this and how automatically and unconsciously deep it can get.
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