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You are right .I may not define what you think is creepy. However that was not the aim of my comment. I just don't give much weight to your anecdote. To be more clear, I do not buy what you said that how he looks will not play on you mind the same way you can look at an action in isolation. Yes, looking at a woman's computer screen is a "creepy" act in isolation. Contacting her afterwords is even more so. However like I said, he could get away with it if he was a rock star.
Although it is interesting to note that the man may be considered intrusive to initiate contact. Once a relationship is made then typically the woman often tests boundaries by say looking at his personal data.
That's nature. Men are trying to find women and women are trying to vet the men. Boundaries will be crossed.
Yes, society in general gives celebrities (rock stars) a pass on creepy, illegal, and general bad behavior. But you did not say being a rock star, you said being physically attractive basically removes the feeling of creepiness for women.
Yes, society in general gives celebrities (rock stars) a pass on creepy, illegal, and general bad behavior. But you did not say being a rock star, you said being physically attractive basically removes the feeling of creepiness for women.
If you would be so kind as to point out where I said physically attractive, and where I said it removes all creepiness.
Just by looking at him is not his physical appearance. Its inclusive of where she recognizes him as famous or not.
Please move the goal posts back where you found them. Its not how attractive he thinks he is . Its not just is physical appearance. Its how attractive he is to her , and yes she can see if he is famous just by looking at him.
If you would be so kind as to point out where I said physically attractive, and where I said it removes all creepiness.
Just by looking at him is not his physical appearance. Its inclusive of where she recognizes him as famous or not.
Please move the goal posts back where you found them. Its not how attractive he thinks he is . Its not just is physical appearance. Its how attractive he is to her , and yes she can see if he is famous just by looking at him.
Really? Ok.
"It really depends on how he looks. Attractive men are rarely "creepy". ...... However if he is attractive just by looking at him , he can find 10 more girls just like her. If he is the more typical man that requires getting to know him , she will think she already knows him enough in a bad way. So either way, pointless. "
Originally Posted by Archaic
I have known enough "creepy" good-looking guys to be a bit wary of handsome men.
"They generally are not classified as creepy(see above=handsome men) . There is a good reason for this. ....... Yes one may be wary of them, but its not "a creep" like presence to women generally speaking."
I don't buy it. I assert creepy is indexed to the level of man's attractiveness with a very strong, if not one to one, correlation.
And the moving of the goal post from attractive to rockstar. "To be more clear, I do not buy what you said that how he looks will not play on you mind the same way you can look at an action in isolation. ……However like I said, he could get away with it if he was a rock star."
These studies just ask a random sampling of men to rate themselves, then their picture is shared to a bunch of women and they're asked to rate them. And repeat the same for the women.
"It really depends on how he looks. Attractive men are rarely "creepy". ...... However if he is attractive just by looking at him , he can find 10 more girls just like her. If he is the more typical man that requires getting to know him , she will think she already knows him enough in a bad way. So either way, pointless. "
Originally Posted by Archaic
I have known enough "creepy" good-looking guys to be a bit wary of handsome men.
"They generally are not classified as creepy(see above=handsome men) . There is a good reason for this. ....... Yes one may be wary of them, but its not "a creep" like presence to women generally speaking."
I don't buy it. I assert creepy is indexed to the level of man's attractiveness with a very strong, if not one to one, correlation.
And the moving of the goal post from attractive to rockstar. "To be more clear, I do not buy what you said that how he looks will not play on you mind the same way you can look at an action in isolation. ……However like I said, he could get away with it if he was a rock star."
Yes really. You said:
physically attractive
I did not say that nor "handsome men." The other poster said that. Why are you inserting it here? I impute that it is you moving the goal posts .
Is this really where you want go? You want to try and catch me in some contradiction that I am manipulating it to causally suggest rock star and "good looks" on the sly move the argument in my direction. ? Attractive men physically or otherwise are allowed to push boundaries and not be called creepy. I did not say physical appearance only or "handsome" , and I said attractive for a reason repeatedly because it includes everything that makes a man attractive. So I did not move the goal posts at all .I said attractive men which includes anything attractive including fame or good looks. Does a man look more attractive in good clothing or in a sports car?
Anyway it hardly matters. Anything that makes a man attractive makes him less creepy .
I did not say that nor "handsome men." The other poster said that. Why are you inserting it here? I impute that it is you moving the goal posts .
Is this really where you want go? You want to try and catch me in some contradiction that I am manipulating it to causally suggest rock star and "good looks" on the sly move the argument in my direction. ? Attractive men physically or otherwise are allowed to push boundaries and not be called creepy. I did not say physical appearance only or "handsome" , and I said attractive for a reason repeatedly because it includes everything that makes a man attractive. So I did not move the goal posts at all .I said attractive men which includes anything attractive including fame or good looks. Does a man look more attractive in good clothing or in a sports car?
Anyway it hardly matters. Anything that makes a man attractive makes him less creepy .
stop deflecting.
You and everyone else knows you are talking about physical attractiveness. And no you didnt say handsome. You responded to handsome men with "they generally are not classified as creepy."
It is not a contradiction. You made several comments about how women don't assign creepiness to attractive men and then switched attractive men to rockstars.
The bottom line of this entire digression is that for most women, if a man they had never spoken to and almost barely remember from their train trip randomly dropped into their DMs or sent an email (when they had never provided that information) they would be freaked out. It doesn't matter what the dude looks like, they'd wonder if they'd been hacked or were being stalked. It would be unsettling.
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