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Old 01-02-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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Maybe he left the straight porn on there so you would find it and believe that he's straight, or he can't admit to himself that he's gay so he's looking at straight porn. He's probably gay.
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Old 01-02-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Maybe he left the straight porn on there so you would find it and believe that he's straight, or he can't admit to himself that he's gay so he's looking at straight porn. He's probably gay.
That door swings both ways......just as many women , maybe more , that have Gay leanings. When Women show affection to the same sex , its OK , for men..its a no no........probably Gay , thats it.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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I just do not get this. When you love someone the word "love" becomes a verb - an action word. You take the action you need to take to live that love.

Now, if there is something beyond your control keeping you from being able to be sexually intimate with your spouse, that's one thing. BUT, if there is something you can do that you aren't doing YOU ARE BEING UNLOVING TOWARD YOUR SPOUSE AND SELFISH. Unloving, selfish spouses don't have happy marriages, and a lot of times, they end up losing their spouse to someone else who will REALLY love them. It's just sad, sad, sad.
I would beg to differ that they will lose their spouse. I know some men whose wives are not having relations with them and they are staying.. Children are grown, so children are not the reason for staying together. It is the material and financial gains that they do not want to risk. To cowardly to leave I say, but both are willing to have outside relationships. Men do not leave most marriages. Women who become this way after the marriage are the ones that make men cautious about marrying..

It is common place for a woman to perform to get the man to marry her and then she can become non-compliant with fulfilling his physical needs after she has hooked him on to her leash. She will usually keep him because for most men-It is cheaper to keep her.

It is very sad, sad, sad-yet they stay-because a man needs a woman. This is why you find most men will not initiate a divorce-it is usually the woman. As I mentioned in an earlier post possibly on this thread-"How is it alright for you to deny sex to your husband or wife, but then become upset if they have an affair?" Speaking only of wives and husbands who do not have any physical or emotional problems with sex. Nine times out of ten the person being denied is a really wonderful spouse.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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Having completely lost my libido at 56 (I'm 59 now) I would love to find a man to be with who also could care less about sex. It would be nice to find someone who is where I am sexually, so there could be harmony and not disappointment in that area. Do you think that's possible? Surely there must be some men who want a friend more than a sexual partner. Or am I nuts?
He would need to be asexual as you sound to be. I think that is wonderful that you are certain of your needs and wants and would be willing to share you life with someone like yourself. What would be selfish is for you to expect a man to deny his pleasures of having sex, so asexual sounds like a winner for you.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I would beg to differ that they will lose their spouse. I know some men whose wives are not having relations with them and they are staying.. Children are grown, so children are not the reason for staying together. It is the material and financial gains that they do not want to risk. To cowardly to leave I say, but both are willing to have outside relationships. Men do not leave most marriages. Women who become this way after the marriage are the ones that make men cautious about marrying..

It is common place for a woman to perform to get the man to marry her and then she can become non-compliant with fulfilling his physical needs after she has hooked him on to her leash. She will usually keep him because for most men-It is cheaper to keep her.

It is very sad, sad, sad-yet they stay-because a man needs a woman. This is why you find most men will not initiate a divorce-it is usually the woman. As I mentioned in an earlier post possibly on this thread-"How is it alright for you to deny sex to your husband or wife, but then become upset if they have an affair?" Speaking only of wives and husbands who do not have any physical or emotional problems with sex. Nine times out of ten the person being denied is a really wonderful spouse.
I do not know if stats support this. It seems like they do, but I am not in a subjective position to say.

From the counseling that I have been through, it does appear that you are completely entirely correct.

Over the years, we have offered our coach to many of my fellow shipmates when they got divorced. Child-support, alimony, plus the mortgage and car payments, often left men with less than $100/week to live on.

I have seen many men wrecked by divorce.

I am on a government pension, if I get divorced my ex-spouse gets 50% of my pension. Add to that half of our business and my car.

I can go back to work; all I need is my passport and carry-on baggage. It is all I would be left with. So long as my jobs provide per diem, I could get by.

But I lived out of a sea bag for years, I really have no desire to go back and do that again.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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I do not know if stats support this. It seems like they do, but I am not in a subjective position to say.

From the counseling that I have been through, it does appear that you are completely entirely correct.

Over the years, we have offered our coach to many of my fellow shipmates when they got divorced. Child-support, alimony, plus the mortgage and car payments, often left men with less than $100/week to live on.

I have seen many men wrecked by divorce.

I am on a government pension, if I get divorced my ex-spouse gets 50% of my pension. Add to that half of our business and my car.

I can go back to work; all I need is my passport and carry-on baggage. It is all I would be left with. So long as my jobs provide per diem, I could get by.

But I lived out of a sea bag for years, I really have no desire to go back and do that again.
This is based on stats and actual qualitative studies, so yes the research supports that men get royally screwed in most divorces. Seems as though you need to have a hefty income to afford the damages that would occur from getting a divorce. This is why the younger generation of men and women are being very cautious about getting married, because it appears to be a lifetime prison sentence if one of the spouses consciously decides to withdrawal from a very significant part of the relationship that was held in high regards before the marriage. One of the married men told me, "I was actually attending my funeral and did not know it." That statement sent chills though my body.
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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That door swings both ways......just as many women , maybe more , that have Gay leanings. When Women show affection to the same sex , its OK , for men..its a no no........probably Gay , thats it.
Um, the subject we're speaking of is a man. Nowhere did I make value judgements between gays and lesbians, but since my husband just came out as gay, my red flag went up on this one. The man may not be acting out on his desires, but he still can't love his wife the way she needs him to.
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Old 01-02-2009, 10:01 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Um, the subject we're speaking of is a man. Nowhere did I make value judgements between gays and lesbians, but since my husband just came out as gay, my red flag went up on this one. The man may not be acting out on his desires, but he still can't love his wife the way she needs him to.
Yes .. I know , . My first wife was Gay. ( took her 5 years , one child , to admit it )......now , I'm wondering about third wife...........?
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Northside Of Jacksonville
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WOW....a man not interested in sex, honestly I assumed it was the other way around since men usually desire sex moreso than women in relationship. It's not that serious to want to leave him based on that. Actually it's pretty stupid to ponder leaving the man because he won't give you none. Maybe he doesn't feel like he can please you the way you want, maybe he's not interested in knocking boots as you say or maybe.......this is far fetched........but MAYBE he could be one of the dudes that doesn't put sex in a pedestal. There are other ways to show love to your spouse than just sex.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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WOW....a man not interested in sex, honestly I assumed it was the other way around since men usually desire sex moreso than women in relationship.
Generally yes.

I have learned that some males do not have such a drive. and obviously there are females who do not.

Perhaps in those relationships a middle ground could be met where they can compromise. Maybe once a quarter, or once a year.



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... It's not that serious to want to leave him based on that. Actually it's pretty stupid to ponder leaving the man because he won't give you none. Maybe he doesn't feel like he can please you the way you want, maybe he's not interested in knocking boots as you say or maybe ....... this is far fetched ........ but MAYBE he could be one of the dudes that doesn't put sex in a pedestal. There are other ways to show love to your spouse than just sex.
Many people have had to learn to not put it on a pedestal.
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