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I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with that comment.
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Originally Posted by max's mama
Okay, what about masturbation without pornography? What do you think about that?
The point of this thread is the woman's problem with the husband getting caught masturbating to pornography after he promised to stop...its not Jason's personal belief's on masturbation.
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Originally Posted by spinx
That's very extreme. I'm not talking about all day every day, I think that would be a problem, but occasional alone time...? Come on. I would think it would be smothering if an SO couldn't get away every once in a while.
Maybe its extreme but I feel it is not necessary in a healthy sexual relationship where both partner's needs are satisfied. I almost feel sympathy for most of you because you clearly aren't finding what you want in a partner when you feel compelled to "lock yourself away from your partner". Once a month or three times a day, either way to me its disturbing.
But you also made this extreme and ridiculous statement:
"masturbation with porn is disgusting, selfish, habit that goes along with severe underlying mental issues and permanent sexual dysfunction within the confinement of a healthy relationship."
This is just laughable - try telling your theory to the American Psychiatric Assoc
Its my viewpoint, you believe mine is rubbish and if I posted what I thought about yours I'll have another warning in my DM box from a moderator.
But you also made this extreme and ridiculous statement:
"masturbation with porn is disgusting, selfish, habit that goes along with severe underlying mental issues and permanent sexual dysfunction within the confinement of a healthy relationship."
I think Jason made a fair statement I do subscribe to that point of view too.
Masturbating on porn is such a waste of time, coz it's empty and unreal. Time's better spent doing useful things, or the girlfriend's just a phone call away.
That isn't my viewpoint though...and at almost 30 years old I will never change that or accept the "normal" view point that masturbation with pornography is okay and/or healthy. I feel it is a disgusting, selfish, habit that goes along with severe underlying mental issues and permanent sexual dysfunction within the confinement of a healthy relationship.
And I see your view point as someone with a severe underlying mental issue with a permanent sexual dysfunction.
Normal is what we each make it. To me your attitude towards the subject is fairly abnormal for a guy.
Maybe its extreme but I feel it is not necessary in a healthy sexual relationship where both partner's needs are satisfied. I almost feel sympathy for most of you because you clearly aren't finding what you want in a partner when you feel compelled to "lock yourself away from your partner". Once a month or three times a day, either way to me its disturbing.
You're taking every little thing I said and blowing it out of proportion. Masturbation in moderation is healthy. Take from that what you will.
That isn't my viewpoint though...and at almost 30 years old I will never change that or accept the "normal" view point that masturbation with pornography is okay and/or healthy. I feel it is a disgusting, selfish, habit that goes along with severe underlying mental issues and permanent sexual dysfunction within the confinement of a healthy relationship.
What is your religious background? Often there are severe hangups impressed upon a child that sex is dirty or taboo. So many people suffer from leftover crap from their childhood in regard to sex.
The point of this thread is the woman's problem with the husband getting caught masturbating to pornography after he promised to stop...its not Jason's personal belief's on masturbation.
Okay, but since you were so opened in your beliefs about pornography, I was curious to find out what your thoughts are on masturbation in general.
See, even if we stop watching porn, our minds will still fantasize about someone who is not available. That's how human nature is made. We will still create in our minds someone or think of someone and unwillingly make comparisons to our partners. Is it still unfair to our partners in your opinion?
Insulting me won't do you any favors you ****. I never said old fashioned guys didn't jerk off, apparently you failed to read my other much larger post or have a reading comprehension problem...you particularly missed the part where I mentioned magazines. As for being a prude, I'm picky about who I have sex with, just because I dont try to hump every girl that walks by like a dog does not mean I don't enjoy sex. I believe that sex is actually better when you don't taint yourself with pornography and numerous partners.
For someone who tries to come off as high and mighty morally, you sure don't show any class in your posts.
Maybe its extreme but I feel it is not necessary in a healthy sexual relationship where both partner's needs are satisfied. I almost feel sympathy for most of you because you clearly aren't finding what you want in a partner when you feel compelled to "lock yourself away from your partner". Once a month or three times a day, either way to me its disturbing.
Oh good grief - you are so young
You seem to be missing that those of us in actual really happy, long term relationships are the ones telling those of you who aren't what works and doesn't for most successful relationships.
Come back when you've managed to be as extremely happily married as I am, for as long as I have been, before you try to lecture me about how I'm not being satisfied or not "finding what I want" just because my guy occasionally looks at porn.
Insulting me won't do you any favors you ****. I never said old fashioned guys didn't jerk off, apparently you failed to read my other much larger post or have a reading comprehension problem...you particularly missed the part where I mentioned magazines. As for being a prude, I'm picky about who I have sex with, just because I dont try to hump every girl that walks by like a dog does not mean I don't enjoy sex. I believe that sex is actually better when you don't taint yourself with pornography and numerous partners.
Right, prude it is. You think I'm insulting you, yet you call me a C U Next Tuesday? Nice. Guess what, my man masturbates and looks at porn, but he'd never let that word past his lips.
When did I say you needed to want to hump everything that walked by in order to be a normal man? I believe that two people can be completely monogamous with each other, AND look at porn. It's no big deal.
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I do subscribe to that point of view too.
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