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Well I believe in communication...and I move slow. So I wouldn't get into a relationship where we couldn't communicate and express what we liked sexually. I don't know what else to say.
Lying is wrong. You can't be mad at a woman for a man lying...no matter why he lied.
I agree about the lying. I personally am honest to a fault. At the minimum I reserve my opinions to myself, but I don't have the ability to say what I don't mean or even pretend to feel a way I don't.
As a mom, I've always wanted to make sure my son could tell me anything. To get him to do that, I always made sure that no matter what he said, I didn't go ballistic and belittle him. That doesn't mean I had to like what he said or there weren't ultimately discussions or repercussions about it, but so far I think it's worked. Lastly, when one spouse constantly interrogates or "checks" on what their spouse is doing, I think that level of mistrust causes people to start hiding things. It's a bad cycle all the way around.
Wow!! Since this is a good and valid point it will be torn to shreds. Once again for those who are new here and don't pay attention: If you are a Man and look at porn FOR WHATEVER REASON UNDER THE SUN you are considered a (pervert, deviant, criminal, have no respect for women, should be on the registered sex offender list, and yes you are also an addict incapable of having ANY meaningful relationships with women.) However if you are a woman under the same circumstances due to the fact that your gender alone automatically denotes self control and in some "rare" cases you were probably "victimized" by your evil husband/boyfriend if they were the ones who talked you into or suggested this was a good way to "spice" things up in your relationship. In those cases the women in those relationships should by all means DIVORCE their abusive mates immediately. That about sums it all up. Any questions?
Irrelevant, sweeping generalization given that there are plenty of women on this thread defending a man's right to look at porn, myself included.
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Modern society in a nutshell. However, this is in the process of changing because so much of it is unaffordable, doesn't work in any way it was intended and is just rank discrimination.
Soon, I expect a ground breaking legal case demonstrating how overt the discrimination against men has become. I see many such opportunities for a sharp lawyer, wanting to make their name.
After all, originally, all women were asking for was equality. Isn't it time they got it - equality and nothing more.
Just plain irrelevant. But hey, you never miss an opportunity to show the world how bitter and angry at your ex you are, do you?
I agree about the lying. I personally am honest to a fault. At the minimum I reserve my opinions to myself, but I don't have the ability to say what I don't mean or even pretend to feel a way I don't.
As a mom, I've always wanted to make sure my son could tell me anything. To get him to do that, I always made sure that no matter what he said, I didn't go ballistic and belittle him. That doesn't mean I had to like what he said or there weren't ultimately discussions or repercussions about it, but so far I think it's worked. Lastly, when one spouse constantly interrogates or "checks" on what their spouse is doing, I think that level of mistrust causes people to start hiding things. It's a bad cycle all the way around.
Excellent points Robee, and I think you've chosen an very effective method of communicating with your son. You're right, the more fear or ridicule you strike in someone, the more they will hide stuff from you.
I agree about the lying. I personally am honest to a fault. At the minimum I reserve my opinions to myself, but I don't have the ability to say what I don't mean or even pretend to feel a way I don't.
As a mom, I've always wanted to make sure my son could tell me anything. To get him to do that, I always made sure that no matter what he said, I didn't go ballistic and belittle him. That doesn't mean I had to like what he said or there weren't ultimately discussions or repercussions about it, but so far I think it's worked. Lastly, when one spouse constantly interrogates or "checks" on what their spouse is doing, I think that level of mistrust causes people to start hiding things. It's a bad cycle all the way around.
Then we agree on everything.
In this case, a man was sneaking around behind his wife's back, and looking at porn. He lied about it. That is what is wrong here, the lying. What we had here was a thread full of people justifying the lying...which I can't understand.
I also agree with what you said about interrogating.
As in my poll that I had locked, I really couldn't care less if couples watch porn. I do know that is not an activity that I would employ, and I don't want to be with a woman that uses porn. But that's my right, correct?
Porn does bring about some misconceptions on a man's part. A few would be that women like getting a semen facial. Women enjoy backdoor sex. Women get more pleasure from a man who can toss his schlong over his shoulder and go to a Halloween party dressed as a gas pump.
In this case, a man was sneaking around behind his wife's back, and looking at porn. He lied about it. That is what is wrong here, the lying. What we had here was a thread full of people justifying the lying...which I can't understand.
I also agree with what you said about interrogating.
As in my poll that I had locked, I really couldn't care less if couples watch porn. I do know that is not an activity that I would employ, and I don't want to be with a woman that uses porn. But that's my right, correct?
Jsizzle, my recent posts were in response to how the thread evolved, not the OP. I think I answered the OP somewhere in the first dozen pages of this thread. IIRC, she was upset that he was watching Youtube videos and he showed no interest in her.
Of course it's your right not to want to watch it or like it. I don't judge you for it and completely respect that it does nothing for you and that you prefer it not be part of any relationship you'll find yourself in. I just think that understanding and tolerance works both ways and you shouldn't be judging those that do watch it.
Excellent points Robee, and I think you've chosen an very effective method of communicating with your son. You're right, the more fear or ridicule you strike in someone, the more they will hide stuff from you.
Thanks. i'm x-ing my fingers that as he gets older its stays that way.
I might be concerned if he was typing in "kiddy porn" but teen porn, especially on youtube is kind of bland. Do they even get naked? Teen usually means 18-19 on any porno site which is completely legal 25yo guy looking at a 19yo woman...I just don't see the peddi in it, sorry Both are complete adults.
Had girlfriends who were into the porn thing and I had absolutely no envy, distrust, paranoia about it. I was always confident in who I was.
Jsizzle, my recent posts were in response to how the thread evolved, not the OP. I think I answered the OP somewhere in the first dozen pages of this thread. IIRC, she was upset that he was watching Youtube videos and he showed no interest in her.
Of course it's your right not to want to watch it or like it. I don't judge you for it and completely respect that it does nothing for you and that you prefer it not be part of any relationship you'll find yourself in. I just think that understanding and tolerance works both ways and you shouldn't be judging those that do watch it.
The same 1st Ammendment that gives porn the right to exist, also protects my right to express my judgment of those that use. Sorry.
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25yo guy looking at a 19yo woman...I just don't see the peddi in it, sorry
Both are complete adults. 