Do animals sin? (Isaac, Abraham, Christ, Old Testament)

[urbancharlotte]

Originally Posted by Nikk

"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so." (Gen. 1:30)

All animals were vegitarian, so your imagined senarios are useless retoric.

T-rex was a meat eater. However, "God" wasn't invented yet back then.

[old_cold]

Originally Posted by Nikk

"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so." (Gen. 1:30)

All animals were vegitarian, so your imagined senarios are useless retoric.

Green herbs are the basis for all foods, including animal flesh.
A food chain always starts with plant life and ends with an animal.

[Fullback32]

Originally Posted by Roman6

In the beginning lions, like humans, did not eat meat. They ate grass and straw and leaves.

So how come they have the wrong kind of teeth for that?

[cruxan]

Originally Posted by AREQUIPA

Glad you are still here. I think most of this post is off topic, but this: "while animals may not sin as in contravening the Law, or going against conscience, or rejecting Jesus Christ, they are still slavves to sinfulness and this is why they kill and steal."

Are you telling us that animals were Created sinful?

animals do not sin.!!!! when another animal steals or kills it's called survival. we all kill to survive, one must eat.!! even if you are a vegetarian you still kill to eat, next time you rip a poor tomato off a vine, or an apple of a tree, what about when you stuff a poor defenceless grape down your throught.. you just killed the poor little harmless fruit .

[ptsum]

Well, I've got to tell you, I use a little green herb to flavor that meat when I'm cooking it....... adds a real nice flavor to it........ and that little green herb does a real fine job of flavoring that beef stew....

[tgnostic]

Only snakes sin, and obsessively; also carnivorous tigers sin when they catch their required prey for proof that they will not die. Dolphins come suicidal onto the beaches of New Zealand; or at least that was some kind of sin a few years ago. Birds fly into buildings dazzled by the lights of progressive man determining that planes have their viewing for the flight path (or something). A pride of lions I suppose does not sin for the food they need in the accorded time or season off year. All in all if animals do not get tempted by the devil they act as sinning devils themselves.

I don't know; I really believe that there IS NO ORIGINAL SIN. Life itself is original for all of mankind thinking intelligently.

[TRANSPONDER]

Originally Posted by cruxan

animals do not sin.!!!! when another animal steals or kills it's called survival. we all kill to survive, one must eat.!!

I agree.

even if you are a vegetarian you still kill to eat, next time you rip a poor tomato off a vine, or an apple of a tree, what about when you stuff a poor defenceless grape down your throught.. you just killed the poor little harmless fruit .

You can't imagine how guilty I felt flaying a potato alive midday.

[detmi7mile]

Originally Posted by Fullback32

So how come they have the wrong kind of teeth for that?

LOL...exactly.

Either they had CANINE teeth for eating grass, which makes no sense, or they EVOLVED them in order to eat meat.

But I can picture the christian explanation already...

"God magically transformed their teeth after the fall!!"

[tgnostic]

This all gives me the opportunity to reject Original sin just the same. There was no sin except in the failure to understand the trust for the spirit. There is trust in ignoring for the good deed in hate. But love still requires self-knowledge to doing good. Animals love better when they're sociable. Man can't learn.

[AnonChick]

The Old Testament is imagined scenarios and useless rhetoric. That's pretty much the point.