A reasonable argument for God? (belief, techniques, exist, eternal)

[lifertexan]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

I know it is a waste of time on this board. The skeptic will always figure out a way to explain away evidence that points to a Creator.

With that said (sigh)

DNA and evolution. Why should it work?

Mathematics. Hardly the stuff of random chance.

Logic says everything in the natural world has a cause.

Random chance does not result in Laws of the universe.

The singularity of the Big Bang ordered itself into the Universe and life and humans, by mere chance??? This sentence defies logic and reason.

I will stop here.

None of this makes any sense,no matter how much you think it does.Try again.

I would also add that if you believe that it is all random chance,then you do not understand evolution.You might want to actually learn something about what you argue against.

[lifertexan]

Originally Posted by Me Winslow

And the result of modern man that simply does not know being unable to say it might be what others call God.
There is an unknown supernatural force that holds matter together.
It is fair to say it literally creates matter.
But it did not just make matter and then leave.
It is still here to this day affecting everything.

Nothing here but opinion.No supportable facts whatsoever.

[Mr5150]

Originally Posted by lifertexan

None of this makes any sense,no matter how much you think it does.Try again.

Like I said. The skeptic just dismisses.

The evidence is all around. Open your mind. There was one minute between our posts. You did not even take the time to consider what I said. Telling.

But I do realize that most atheists are set in their ways and don't want to change.

[tigetmax24]

Originally Posted by lifertexan

Disagree.Both theism and atheism have no first cause theorems.Theism maintains that God has always existed.Atheism maintains that the material of the universe,in some form,has always existed.

It is jumping ahead.Let's stick to one item at a time.Besides,proof of a historical person called Jesus would not prove the existence of God .

Thanks. I actually prefer to take it one step at a time.

Why does anything exist rather than nothing?

Also, we actually get the "first cause theorem" from science. Do you know of any effects in nature that have no cause?

Are you inclined to accept Big Bang cosmology?

[Me Winslow]

Originally Posted by lifertexan

Nothing here but opinion.No supportable facts whatsoever.

Maybe I assumed to much that you might know about physics.
Because many that entertain these discussions have some science knowledge.

[lifertexan]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

Like I said. The skeptic just dismisses.

The evidence is all around. Open your mind. There was one minute between our posts. You did not even take the time to consider what I said. Telling.

But I do realize that most atheists are set in their ways and don't want to change.

If the evidence IS all around,then present it here instead of just making the claim that it's "all around us".

Or leave this discussion to those capable of providing facts instead of unsupportable opinions.

BTW,the skeptic asks questions.That is why you have cures for things like polio instead of accepting it all as God's will.

[lifertexan]

Originally Posted by Me Winslow

Maybe I assumed to much that you might know about physics.
Because many that entertain these discussions have some science knowledge.

You offered no physics,so save your snarkiness.

Do you actually have anything to offer up?

[Mr5150]

Originally Posted by lifertexan

If the evidence IS all around,then present it here instead of just making the claim that it's "all around us".

Or leave this discussion to those capable of providing facts instead of unsupportable opinions.

BTW,the skeptic asks questions.That is why you have cures for things like polio instead of accepting it all as God's will.

Personally, I would have taken a few minutes to examine what was being said. Ask questions if needed. But it seems you don't operate that way.

Dismiss what the theist says and move on--in less than a minute! I think we are done.

[Me Winslow]

Originally Posted by lifertexan

You offered no physics,so save your snarkiness.

Do you actually have anything to offer up?

I did offer something up and you were unable to address it.
Do you know what holds all matter together?
Do you know anything about particles?

What is a snark anyhow?
I have never seen one before.
Is it some kind of endangered whale?

[Mr5150]

Originally Posted by tigetmax24

Thanks. I actually prefer to take it one step at a time.

Why does anything exist rather than nothing?

Also, we actually get the "first cause theorem" from science. Do you know of any effects in nature that have no cause?

Are you inclined to accept Big Bang cosmology?

A closed mind is a wonderful thing.