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Old 07-07-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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The anomaly is that although Christians want to win the world and some aggressively proselytize, they also believe that the number being saved is going to be few... 'go in through the narrow gate, few are the ones finding it...' and so they are not too hopeful that you will embrace the faith.

I dont know so much about other faiths but Jehovah's Witnesses believe that all should be preached to, and those who reject the message will be destroyed at Armageddon. Ask them what happens to the ones who dont get to hear the message, and mostly they will answer that God would not destroy someone who was ignorant of the message.

If God truly would not destroy the uninformed, those who never heard the gospel, then surely hearing the message is more dangerous than not, because then your chances of the reward come down from 100% to 50%.

So stop preaching Christians..JWs and give us all a chance!
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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Blank statements are ignorant.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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They treat some like 'cases' until they can win them.

Thanks for help.
Ah ....think you have the wrong religion...try Muslim.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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Ah ....think you have the wrong religion...try Muslim.
What about tryin.... no religions?
They are all gangs.

Addendum:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gang

Last edited by gabfest; 07-07-2011 at 11:06 AM.. Reason: addendum
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Have you tried saying "No thank you" to someone who's pushing their religion in your face because they think you need to be "saved?" In my experience, you have to go a little further than that; they don't take "no" for an answer.

I don't know where you are, but I've been involved in literally thousands of witnessing opportunities, all over the country, and I have yet to see someone press the issue after a "No thank you."

And, I mean I have NEVER seen that done.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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The obvious question here is, with the poll demographic inferring that ±80% of the US nation being xian, ±18% being atheist/irreligious, who exactly are the target audience for conversion?

Is there a sign on people's foreheads in the US that tells you they are xian or not. Would an evangelical approach a muslim in traditional garb?

This fascinates me as we are always TOLD in these board discussions how many folk believe in god or are xians.

Surely there is no need to evangelize as the atheists are highly unlikely candidates for conversion.

Perhaps a hot dolly in a miniskirt, a lad in jeans and an untucked tee shirt?

This really is all so confusing when the "majority" of US citizens are in FACT xians.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The obvious question here is, with the poll demographic inferring that ±80% of the US nation being xian, ±18% being atheist/irreligious, who exactly are the target audience for conversion?

Is there a sign on people's foreheads in the US that tells you they are xian or not. Would an evangelical approach a muslim in traditional garb?

This fascinates me as we are always TOLD in these board discussions how many folk believe in god or are xians.

Surely there is no need to evangelize as the atheists are highly unlikely candidates for conversion.

Perhaps a hot dolly in a miniskirt, a lad in jeans and an untucked tee shirt?

This really is all so confusing when the "majority" of US citizens are in FACT xians.
There isn't any way to tell who is a believer or who isn't without asking, as a general rule. Christian's aren't required to wear an arm band or something, you know, and since "chrisitian" beliefs can run the gamut from Bible-believing evangelical's to those who follow the channeled spirit of Jesus, the only way to ascertain whether or not a person is in need of salvation is to engage them in conversation. Moreover, since far too many Christian denominations think they, and they alone, have the "whole" truth, everyone seems to be fair game. In short, it's not just atheist's or agnostic's who are targeted; it's everyone!

And, yes, some sects or denominations are very agressive about their outreach ministries to the point that even I, a good, solid Southern Baptist, have had to tell some of them to get the hell off my front porch and don't come back.

The point is that some of y'all seem to be a little too sensitive about it and tend to personalize what the rest of us go through too. Nobody is "after" you because you're an atheist.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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They treat some like 'cases' until they can win them.

Thanks for help.
They're selling the book and not the word. Trying to see how many they can get to read the bible makes them feel better about their religion. They forgot to love one another in the meantime. I've ran into several selling their "bible" and have yet to see any of them just being love without a reason while presenting the bible. I've even went so far as to ask them why I would need to read the bible if I followed the two commands that Jesus gave, to love God and each other. They keep telling me that there's more to it than that. They have forgotten that under those two commands hangs all the Law.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:42 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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The obvious question here is, with the poll demographic inferring that ±80% of the US nation being xian, ±18% being atheist/irreligious, who exactly are the target audience for conversion?

Is there a sign on people's foreheads in the US that tells you they are xian or not. Would an evangelical approach a muslim in traditional garb?

This fascinates me as we are always TOLD in these board discussions how many folk believe in god or are xians.

Surely there is no need to evangelize as the atheists are highly unlikely candidates for conversion.

Perhaps a hot dolly in a miniskirt, a lad in jeans and an untucked tee shirt?

This really is all so confusing when the "majority" of US citizens are in FACT xians.
Good point. Tracts are handed out to anyone passing by without first enquiring whether they are believers or not. Perhaps the operation is done on a salmon - spawn principle - if one out of a thousand becomes fertilized it is worth the rest falling on stony ground. Or perhaps it is more a ritual piece - work. They also serve who only stand and hand out tracts.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:49 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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They're selling the book and not the word. Trying to see how many they can get to read the bible makes them feel better about their religion. They forgot to love one another in the meantime. I've ran into several selling their "bible" and have yet to see any of them just being love without a reason while presenting the bible. I've even went so far as to ask them why I would need to read the bible if I followed the two commands that Jesus gave, to love God and each other. They keep telling me that there's more to it than that. They have forgotten that under those two commands hangs all the Law.
Indeed the gospel message is that these two commandments superseded the law and makes it obsolete, though the contradictory remark in Matthew - but none of the others - about jots and tittles is often trotted out as some sort of evidence that this is not the case.

In the case of one of our posters whom I won't name in case that is misunderstood, the Bible - the Gospels in fact - were somewhat deprecated as not being all that important as a basis for faith, which I must say surprised me rather since that's like saying that the law books are not all that important as a basis for the legal system.
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