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Old 10-14-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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The more you study religions, the less believable they become.
What I find fascinating though is a point many people miss, and that is the evolution and relationships between religions over the years. Christianity was derived from the Jewish religion, which was derived from the Egyptian religions. So much of religion is simply accepted without question that when you find the origins of thing like the phrase amen, and the significance of Easter, and the North Star, you realize that much of the modern Christian religion is actually derived from Pagan religions. Weird stuff.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Capital Hill
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Is there a one true religion, or all are delusion? Thanks for any help
I think people have been argueing this issue for centuries upon centuries and it has never been resolved. Why not just play it safe and cry 100 'Hale Maries' so you won't go to hell.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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If all these so-called delusions are chased away, nihilism (the belief in nothing) is what remains.
That's the mindless preaching talking. There is plenty to believe in; how about believing in the world we live in, the people we love, the friends we keep, the environment we're charged with taking care of?

Why do we need to be dreaming about an unsee-able, unknowable universe beyond death in order to "believe in something"? What's so great about imaginary friends and places that you need to ignore reality in an effort to cling to them? Live in our world, or kill yourself, that's my suggestion.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Surprisingly enough, it's Scientology. Yup. Scientology. How 'bout that?

Ohhhhh..... you mean that religion that was created 50 or so years ago by that science fiction writer??? Yep, that's gotta be the One True.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Is there a one true religion, or all are delusion? Thanks for any help
Are all reliions delusion? Yes.

Is a belief in something bigger than ourself or a higher power delusional? Not necessarily.

God, or a creator, cannot and should not be ruled out, particularly because there is no evidence to do so. On the same token, there is also no evidence pointing to the existence of a God or creator.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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Are all reliions delusion? Yes.
Is a belief in something bigger than ourself or a higher power delusional? Not necessarily.
God, or a creator, cannot and should not be ruled out, particularly because there is no evidence to do so. On the same token, there is also no evidence pointing to the existence of a God or creator.
You were doing so well, until the bold. If there is no evidence pointing to God what does the existence of our reality point to instead?
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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You were doing so well, until the bold. If there is no evidence pointing to God what does the existence of our reality point to instead?
Reality.

Certainly not god.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You were doing so well, until the bold. If there is no evidence pointing to God what does the existence of our reality point to instead?
You can't say that the existence of our reality is evidence for the existence of God, until you can show that our reality could only have come into existence by God.

This is another "god of the gaps" thing again.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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You can't say that the existence of our reality is evidence for the existence of God, until you can show that our reality could only have come into existence by God.

This is another "god of the gaps" thing again.
No it is one of acknowledging our status relative to our reality. Anything so ubiquitous and all-encompassing in scope and power relative to us cannot legitimately be considered anything less than God . . . if we are to be intellectually honest. It is the dogmatic insistence on "anything BUT God" or "nothing" that is intellectually illegitimate.
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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Is there a one true religion, or all are delusion? Thanks for any help
Is there one true major or one true career?
We choose religion (or lack of) according to what resonates with us, individually, at this time in our lives...
For some (like me) we choose a religious affiliation to have a sense of community - for the people, not so much the religious doctrine.

I'd say the one universal truth is: GOD IS LOVE. LOVE is striving for what is best (for us - that's through active faith/trial & error).
Love involves realizing what we do to others, we do to ourselves (in thought & related feelings). So we love others as ourselves.
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