The "simple cell" is more complex than mankinds most complex factories

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Originally Posted by mordant

So you're mounting an argument from complexity variant of the argument from incredulity? If something is complex it requires god?

Natural selection is actually quite simple and uncomplicated; it just favors behaviors and characteristics that maximize the passing on of genetic material. It doesn't optimize for enjoyment but for survival, and in fact for a narrow sort of survival: not pure longevity but survival long enough to reproduce, nothing more. A short, miserable existence will do just fine for purposes of natural selection.

My computer and smart phone are incredibly complex but no one is suggesting god created or sustains them.

this is flat wrong. they are not "incredibility complex". We know exactly how they work and every mechanism in them. I men even I understand them.

[mordant]

Originally Posted by Freak80

Yes.

Here is another example of an incredibly complex thing:

[image of big city]

All of that complexity arose from from one simple rule: earn money.

See, no god needed to explain it. Not even humans needed. Just a simple concept: greed.

Similarly ... evolution just needs natural selection, a simple principle -- plus of course time. The built in flexibility of life does the rest by biasing for biodiversity.

No god necessary to explain any of it.