Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
There are some that argue that the seventy week prophecy found in Daniel in the Old Testament was an exact prophecy of the coming of the messiah.
Studying this claim immediately raises two threshold questions.
1. Do we have any evidence as to who actually wrote the prophecy we attribute to Daniel?
2. Do we have any evidence that this prophecy wasn't written after the events it describes.
With reference to Alexander the Great, Flavius Josephus wrote the following;
'And when the book of Daniel was shewed him, wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended;' [Antiquities of the Jews, book XI, chapter VIII, section 5]
Alexander the Great lived from about 356 BC. to about 323 BC. The book of Daniel was written in the 6th Century BC.
There a great deal of internal evidence which I am not going to go into that the book of Daniel was written by Daniel. You can do your own research on the matter.
Copies of the book of Daniel were also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
There is no scholar in his right mind that would suggest that the book of Daniel was written after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ or after the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem, both of which are mentioned in Daniel 9:26.
Oh! I thought I was in the Christiantiy forum. Turns out this is the Religion forum where truth is under constant attack by those who reside here.
With reference to Alexander the Great, Flavius Josephus wrote the following;
'And when the book of Daniel was shewed him, wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended;' [Antiquities of the Jews, book XI, chapter VIII, section 5]
Alexander the Great lived from about 356 BC. to about 323 BC. The book of Daniel was written in the 6th Century BC.
There a great deal of internal evidence which I am not going to go into that the book of Daniel was written by Daniel. You can do your own research on the matter.
Copies of the book of Daniel were also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
There is no scholar in his right mind that would suggest that the book of Daniel was written after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ or after the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem, both of which are mentioned in Daniel 9:26.
Good post, Mike!
Jesus Christ is the only One who fulfilled that Daniel prophecy.
With reference to Alexander the Great, Flavius Josephus wrote the following;
'And when the book of Daniel was shewed him, wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he supposed that himself was the person intended;' [Antiquities of the Jews, book XI, chapter VIII, section 5]
Alexander the Great lived from about 356 BC. to about 323 BC. The book of Daniel was written in the 6th Century BC.
There a great deal of internal evidence which I am not going to go into that the book of Daniel was written by Daniel. You can do your own research on the matter.
Copies of the book of Daniel were also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
There is no scholar in his right mind that would suggest that the book of Daniel was written after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ or after the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem, both of which are mentioned in Daniel 9:26.
Are you serious? Any name can be placed on any book (especially to lend the book authority). This was once a very common practice.
From Wikipedia:
"Pseudepigraphy covers the false ascription of names of authors to works, even to authentic works that make no such claim within their text. Thus a widely accepted but an incorrect attribution of authorship may make a completely authentic text pseudepigraphical. Assessing the actual writer of a text locates questions of pseudepigraphical attribution within the discipline of literary criticism."
For example, if I wrote a book entitled "Meditations of an Ancient Warrior," I might not have a large readership. But if I titled the book "Medications of Mother Theresa," I'd greatly expand my readership.
If " prophecies" were written of older events which were "fulfilled," but prophecies later in the writing were not fulfilled, isn't this evidence that the prophecy was written after the earlier events , but before the later events?
Can an original writing be added to or corrected later on (called "interpolation")?
Can't this be easily checked?
Perhaps we can do so.
(Note: Its always easier to write a "fulfilled" prophecy after the event)
Last edited by ancient warrior; 12-04-2012 at 10:55 AM..
Reason: typo
If " prophecies" were written of older events which were "fulfilled," but prophecies later in the writing were not fulfilled, isn't this evidence that the prophecy was written after the earlier events , but before the later events?
Can an original writing be added to or corrected later on (called "interpolation")?
Can't this be easily checked?
Perhaps we can do so.
(Note: Its always easier to write a "fulfilled" prophecy after the event)
The "this generation shall not pass away before you see the coming of the Son of man..." failed prophesy and has been merely "extended" to this new fad of the end of daze. Using that example, we clearly see how folk will derive anything they want from the bible. All the Daniel weeks are done and dusted except for the last one which is supposed to be the tribulation week of seven years. The coptic way the bible is interpreted where weeks mean 7 years, days are not really 24 hour events etc. Pretty stupid book when it was supposed to be divinely inspired. Time cycles have been observed and recorded for yonks and the editors could not even amend the texts to say what they are meant to say.
Oh well, we have about 3 weeks till the ende ov teh wurlde 21 Dec and then they will have to sit down and invent another interpretation to keep the flock fleeced. Making crap up as you go along is par for the course in wooistan.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.