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i am asking because some people decide that there can't be a god when bad things happen. can someone elaborate either pro or con? i don't even know if there is a god but if there is then why do we think god is all about good and love and get upset with god (if there is a god) when bad things happen.
why/how have we all been conditioned to think that god is all about good things? i am just looking for feedback as to how this (our ideas about god=good) happened.
nothing to do with engineering.
everything to do with awareness.
If I am reading Arach correctly, I would guess he is not talking about some specific person, where yes, awareness can make a difference in what a person does, but talking in general across the population.
when we abandon engineering
we need to be concerned.
when we abandon engineering
it means we determine reliability based on hear-say.
we need to dig in when people abandon science/engineering when talking religion/spiritually.
They are going to hurt somebody.
Arach good and bad have nothing to do with engineering.
you are trying to fit everything into a very small box, a very limited framework, and you seem to get agitated when people say things like "good and bad have nothing to do with engineering"
you asked a few posts back "from an engineering side can you have good without bad?"
and i said "yes of course" and that good and bad have nothing to do with engineering.
then you jump to the place of people are going to get hurt.
that is not, for me, reasonable, rational, or logical.
nor is it reasonable rational or logical to claim good and bad are in the purview of engineering
engineering is "the branch of science and technology concerned with the design, building, and use of engines, machines, and structures." nothing about good and bad. nothing about religion and spirituality. which is the forum we are in. which is the discussion we are having.
Arach good and bad have nothing to do with engineering.
you are trying to fit everything into a very small box, a very limited framework, and you seem to get agitated when people say things like "good and bad have nothing to do with engineering"
you asked a few posts back "from an engineering side can you have good without bad?"
and i said "yes of course" and that good and bad have nothing to do with engineering.
then you jump to the place of people are going to get hurt.
that is not, for me, reasonable, rational, or logical.
nor is it reasonable rational or logical to claim good and bad are in the purview of engineering
engineering is "the branch of science and technology concerned with the design, building, and use of engines, machines, and structures." nothing about good and bad. nothing about religion and spirituality. which is the forum we are in. which is the discussion we are having.
I get it tzaph. But in reality it does. I am sorry.
I get your point though, I really do. For some people, emotional stability is not based on engineering. Its like my wife driving a car. She doesn't need to know any engineering. Until she askes
"is what they say about the car reliable?" "Can I trust what they say?"
as soon as you dismiss engineering the truth, we have no way to objectively determine the reliability of your claim(s).
take me for example. without my background, I marching off to war behind trans. Because, base on hear-say, his statement of belief about god makes more sense to me than your does.
his statement of belief makes perfect sense when we focus on the gaps. I would be a anti-god of gap-er.
You said "nothing to do with engineering". I know you really mean A "balance". Its just our tipping point would be clearly different. I only know center of mass to determine reliability. I fully admit ... I struggle with the center of hearts to determine reliability of claims.
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