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Old 12-29-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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Not so...blasphemy of the Father and the Son shall be forgiven, but not blasphemy of The Spirit of HaShem, it shall never be forgiven in this life or the next...
How could one possibly offend one member of the trinity without offending the others?

Why is one more brittle and sensitive and guilty of the sin of unforgiveness than the others?
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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How could one possibly offend one member of the trinity without offending the others?
Why is one more brittle and sensitive and guilty of the sin of unforgiveness than the others?
::Sigh:: They are not three people. The Holy Spirit is what unites Jesus with the Father . . . God's Holy Spirit (consciousness) that is agape love. The Father and Jesus both possess the Holy Spirit of agape love. It is that Spirit that cannot be blasphemed without separating yourself from both God and Christ.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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::Sigh:: They are not three people. The Holy Spirit is what unites Jesus with the Father . . . God's Holy Spirit (consciousness) that is agape love. The Father and Jesus both possess the Holy Spirit of agape love. It is that Spirit that cannot be blasphemed without separating yourself from both God and Christ.
Got scripture to show that? Or is this just what you feel?
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Got scripture to show that? Or is this just what you feel?
Did scripture teach you how to safely cross a street - or did you manage to pick up that knowledge elsewhere?

Or do you have problems crossing streets?
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:04 PM
 
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Did scripture teach you how to safely cross a street - or did you manage to pick up that knowledge elsewhere?

Or do you have problems crossing streets?
No....do you? Why would you think scripture would tell us that?
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Got scripture to show that? Or is this just what you feel?
You ask a lot of questions for a pastor, Vizio. Do you not know that God IS Spirit (consciousness). Do you not know that God IS Holy. So God's Spirit (consciousness) IS the Holy Spirit. God sent His Holy Spirit to Christ when John baptized Him. So Christ's human Spirit (consciousness) was now the same as God's . . . the Holy Spirit. When Christ died and His human consciousness was reborn as Spirit . . . it joined the collective human consciousness as the Comforter (Holy Spirit) and is available to us as a guide to what God has "written in our hearts" . . . so we would need no one to teach us. Do you ever think about what you claim to believe and check to see if it is coherent? Does it make any sense to you? Or do you just present it to others as is . . . like the "mystery" that is the Trinity?
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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You ask a lot of questions for a pstor, Vizio. Do you not know that God IS Spirit (consciousness). Do you not know that God IS Holy. So God's Spirit (consciousness) IS the Holy Spirit. God sent His Holy Spirit to Christ when John baptized Him. So Christ's human Spirit (consciousness) was now the same as God's . . . the Holy Spirit. When Christ died and His human consciousness was reborn as Spirit . . . it joined the collective human consciousness as the Comforter (Holy Spirit) and is available to us as a guide to what God has "written in our hearts" . . . so we would need no one to teach us. Do you ever think about what you claim to believe and check to see if it is coherent? Does it make any sense to you? Or do you just present it to others as is.
And you make a lot of unsupported, non-biblical statements using the same words, but different definitions than what a Christian would use. That's why I ask you to back up what you say, and to define your terms.


Even your little rant above is not in any sway documented by scripture, but is instead full of assumptions based on who-know-what.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:23 PM
 
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You ask a lot of questions for a pastor, Vizio. Do you not know that God IS Spirit (consciousness). Do you not know that God IS Holy. So God's Spirit (consciousness) IS the Holy Spirit. God sent His Holy Spirit to Christ when John baptized Him. So Christ's human Spirit (consciousness) was now the same as God's . . . the Holy Spirit. When Christ died and His human consciousness was reborn as Spirit . . . it joined the collective human consciousness as the Comforter (Holy Spirit) and is available to us as a guide to what God has "written in our hearts" . . . so we would need no one to teach us. Do you ever think about what you claim to believe and check to see if it is coherent? Does it make any sense to you? Or do you just present it to others as is . . . like the "mystery" that is the Trinity?
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And you make a lot of unsupported, non-biblical statements using the same words, but different definitions than what a Christian would use. That's why I ask you to back up what you say, and to define your terms.
Even your little rant above is not in any sway documented by scripture, but is instead full of assumptions based on who-know-what.
They are neither unsupported nor non-biblical, Vizio. You just limit your knowledge and understanding to the 1st century and earlier . . . adopting their ancient ignorance as the basis upon which you try to understand God as a sign of your Faith. It is a mistake foregoing 2000+ years of knowledge and understanding for such primitive concepts of God. It is why you say "based on who-knows-what." Stagnating knowledge about God to what was known and believed in the 1st century and earlier does no justice to God nor your flock who depend on you for answers.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:25 PM
 
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They are neither unsupported nor non-biblical, Vizio. You just limit your knowledge and understanding to the 1st century and earlier . . . adopting their ancient ignorance as the basis upon which you try to understand God as a sign of your Faith. It is a mistake foregoing 2000+ years of knowledge and understanding for such primitive concepts of God. It is why you say "based on who-knows-what." Stagnating knowledge about God to what was known and believed in the 1st century and earlier does no justice to God nor your flock who depend on you for answers.
Yet another example of what I was saying.
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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Yet another example of what I was saying.

yes , and away from the topic.
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