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Why limit God's creative power? Why not just say that God created the entire universe five minutes ago, complete with memories and recorded history of a completely unreal past?
If we're going to be creationists, let's go full-bore.
Yea, why not? He can create and bury a bunch of dinosaurs to fool us, so how do we know we weren't born 5 minutes ago? He could have put the memories there to fool us!
Yea, why not? He can create and bury a bunch of dinosaurs to fool us, so how do we know we weren't born 5 minutes ago? He could have put the memories there to fool us!
Well that's if they actually got their dating correct to begin with and how they achieved that date. You are talking about the wrong god. God is not "god." Please try again.
Really? That's the best you can do is it? 'God is not "god." Please try again.'
That's pathetic even for you. Basing a rebuttal on the capitalization of a word...
Clearly I've been wasting my time since you are only interested in nursery school age arguments.
And yes, many dating methods are accurate to within around +/- 20 million years which is pretty good going for a 4.5 Billion year geologic timescale.
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Who said God started with simple organisms? Though this is from a Christian web site, it raises many questions concerning life beginning with simpler life forms: How Did Life Begin?
This is from their web site:
"INSUFFICIENT TIME FOR CREATION OF EVEN SIMPLEST ORGANISMS
Evolutionists claim that the evolutionary process occurred over billions of years, so they feel there was
plenty of time to make all the necessary trial combinations and eventually get the correct ones. Let's
test this theory for "Fred".
Astronomers estimate the universe to be less than 30 billion years old, which is 1018 seconds. Let's
assume that it takes a billionth of a second for components to combine to form a trial 100 component
"Fred". Let's also assume that the number of electrons in the universe, 1080, is representative of the
number of basic components available for trial combinations of "Fred". This would allow 1078 trial
combinations of 100 component "Fred" to occur at a time. With these assumptions, from the origin of the
universe until today, 10105 trial combinations could be made (1018 x 109 x 1078). Unfortunately, to be
sure to get a functioning "Fred" we would need 10158 combinations. The chance of one of our 10105
combinations being the correct, functioning "Fred" is approximately one chance in one hundred million
billion billion billion billion billion (1 in 1053). It would take over three billion billion billion billion billion billion
billion years to try all the possible combinations to be sure to create Fred. Written out, that's over 3,
000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000,
000 years. There hasn't been nearly enough time to create even simple "Fred" in the universe's supposed
30,000,000,000 years of existence! "
Here I came across this for you.
It's a paper called 'Radiometric dating. A Christian Perspective'. by Dr Roger Weins
He works for NASA's Space and Atmospheric Science Division
It maybe a little outdated now since it was last updated in 2002, but you might learn something.
Is this one of those "I don't understand science, but will post something from creationist sites in order to prove that I am right. When challenged I won't attempt to prove my point, but rather ask you to disprove my point." threads?
Is this one of those "I don't understand science, but will post something from creationist sites in order to prove that I am right. When challenged I won't attempt to prove my point, but rather ask you to disprove my point." threads?
In a nutshell. Eusie has no clue how evolution works, so he claims it is false because, you know, God. Then says, "Prove without any doubt at all, without using any words like seems, looks like, etc, that evolution is real. Show me proof of all transitions from a single cell to present day humans. anything short of that isn't proof." Then why asked to prove he is right, he says, "The Bible. And for good measure, here is a clearly biased Christian blog that says you are wrong."
In a nutshell. Eusie has no clue how evolution works, so he claims it is false because, you know, God. Then says, "Prove without any doubt at all, without using any words like seems, looks like, etc, that evolution is real. Show me proof of all transitions from a single cell to present day humans. anything short of that isn't proof." Then why asked to prove he is right, he says, "The Bible. And for good measure, here is a clearly biased Christian blog that says you are wrong."
No evidence is better than very strong (but imperfect) evidence. At least in the mind of a creationist.
Is this one of those "I don't understand science, but will post something from creationist sites in order to prove that I am right. When challenged I won't attempt to prove my point, but rather ask you to disprove my point." threads?
Yeah, that's Eusie's MO.
Everybody else has to provide proof -- which, of course, he will not read or attempt to understand -- but he gets to tell fairy tales.
No evidence is better than very strong (but imperfect) evidence. At least in the mind of a creationist.
Exactly. I love how he keeps saying that it takes a lot of faith to believe in evolution (lots of evidence. may not be perfect, but it is much better than his alternative), like it doesn't take faith to believe god made people out of dirt (This requires no evidence, according to Eusie, because there is no evidence)...
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Yeah, that's Eusie's MO.
Everybody else has to provide proof -- which, of course, he will not read or attempt to understand -- but he gets to tell fairy tales.
You could ask Eusie for proof HE was real and he wouldn't provide it. Actually, he would probably ask you to prove he wasn't.
Why limit God's creative power? Why not just say that God created the entire universe five minutes ago, complete with memories and recorded history of a completely unreal past?
If we're going to be creationists, let's go full-bore.
Why not say it? Because God didn't create the entire universe five minutes ago. No one but you believes that.
If we are going to be creationists, let's believe the Scriptures for they speak the truth.
Really? That's the best you can do is it? 'God is not "god." Please try again.'
That's pathetic even for you. Basing a rebuttal on the capitalization of a word...
Well, if you want any respect from me, capitalize "God" out of respect. The term "god" in the Bible is reserved for people and false gods of wood and stone.
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Clearly I've been wasting my time since you are only interested in nursery school age arguments.
Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
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And yes, many dating methods are accurate to within around +/- 20 million years which is pretty good going for a 4.5 Billion year geologic timescale.
Really?
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Here I came across this for you.
It's a paper called 'Radiometric dating. A Christian Perspective'. by Dr Roger Weins
He works for NASA's Space and Atmospheric Science Division
It maybe a little outdated now since it was last updated in 2002, but you might learn something.
Not that I expect you to make any attempt to look at it.
So I'm done with this.
I'm not interested in wasting any more of my time.
I haven't read it. But you might GOOGLE "fossil dating inaccurate." Not that I expect you to make any attempt to do so.
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