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Old 11-27-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Eastern Oregon.
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What about:
  • Koran
  • Avesta
  • Bhagavad Gita
  • Egyptian Book of the Dead
  • Vedas
  • Kojiki

As sources for your quest?
I have already made my choice. I know I cannot justify it over other religions. Actually, I don't have a specific religion, just what I know about God, angels, Satan, paradise and the Bible. I don't feel obligated either by conscious or intellectually to resurrect those other gods. Well, believers in those gods could say their god is the one true god and my God (the Lord of the OT) is dead. Since those other gods have no power over me because they don't exist, I have no fear.

I have found some streamlining features to my God that others have missed. My God is dualistic, meaning there are two perfect Gods in one. Because theologians have not considered that possibility, I consider myself an God innovator. However, I don't expect anyone to change their beliefs. The religious conversion business is very risky and highly unrewarding without supporters.
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Old 11-27-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I have already made my choice. I know I cannot justify it over other religions. Actually, I don't have a specific religion, just what I know about God, angels, Satan, paradise and the Bible. I don't feel obligated either by conscious or intellectually to resurrect those other gods. Well, believers in those gods could say their god is the one true god and my God (the Lord of the OT) is dead. Since those other gods have no power over me because they don't exist, I have no fear.

I have found some streamlining features to my God that others have missed. My God is dualistic, meaning there are two perfect Gods in one. Because theologians have not considered that possibility, I consider myself an God innovator. However, I don't expect anyone to change their beliefs. The religious conversion business is very risky and highly unrewarding without supporters.
As has been said before, if you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why many reject yours. Just as the other gods you deny of any existence, is the same reason the god you do not deny does not exist.

The sooner you understand that, the better life you will be able to live here on earth, as it is the only life you have.
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Old 11-27-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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(Technically) The Christian Canon is not permanently closed, but the collection we do have now is in fact the Canon that we do have …

In addition, of course, there are the Deutero-Canonical (inter-Testamental) books, whose standings are … *dicey* …

But, no … The shocking breathless Discovery/History channel programs about books that were (supposedly) unfairly banned or suppressed are … mostly … just a big *yawn* for serious Biblical students … They're interesting, but there was and is no good reason to believe that they ever could or would have been include in the Canon (with the possible exception of the so-called Gospel of Thomas …)
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Old 11-27-2015, 02:30 PM
 
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(Technically) The Christian Canon is not permanently closed, but the collection we do have now is in fact the Canon that we do have …

In addition, of course, there are the Deutero-Canonical (inter-Testamental) books, whose standings are … *dicey* …

But, no … The shocking breathless Discovery/History channel programs about books that were (supposedly) unfairly banned or suppressed are … mostly … just a big *yawn* for serious Biblical students … They're interesting, but there was and is no good reason to believe that they ever could or would have been include in the Canon (with the possible exception of the so-called Gospel of Thomas …)
But back when the Bible was compiled, those books had as many followers as the ones that were used. How do you know that they were not more the word of God than the books that were chosen?
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Old 11-27-2015, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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But back when the Bible was compiled, those books had as many followers as the ones that were used. How do you know that they were not more the word of God than the books that were chosen?
I would think that's quite obvious:

Constantine and his editorial staff were channeling the Christian God(s) who directed them in their choices.

Duh!

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Old 11-27-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Eastern Oregon.
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As has been said before, if you understand why you reject all other gods, you will understand why many reject yours. Just as the other gods you deny of any existence, is the same reason the god you do not deny does not exist.

The sooner you understand that, the better life you will be able to live here on earth, as it is the only life you have.
I accept that others don't accept my God. It goes with the territory of having different beliefs. As for my God, I claim it exists. You can't convince me otherwise. As for my life on earth, I have had successes and satisfaction enough to be happy. Knowing about God doesn't necessarily correlate with happiness. In some ways, atheist are happier for not knowing. My God is not the happy go lucky salvation god. As a matter of fact, I don't believe there is any salvation. Humans messed that up long ago, and I don't see much, if any, improvement.

Happy holidays.
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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I accept that others don't accept my God. It goes with the territory of having different beliefs. As for my God, I claim it exists. You can't convince me otherwise. As for my life on earth, I have had successes and satisfaction enough to be happy. Knowing about God doesn't necessarily correlate with happiness. In some ways, atheist are happier for not knowing. My God is not the happy go lucky salvation god. As a matter of fact, I don't believe there is any salvation. Humans messed that up long ago, and I don't see much, if any, improvement.

Happy holidays.
And merry Christmas to you. Merry Christmas is not a swear word, even for atheists
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Old 11-27-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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I would think that's quite obvious:

Constantine and his editorial staff were channeling the Christian God(s) who directed them in their choices.

Duh!

It's my understanding that his priests were under a time limit under penalty of death. Makes you want to pick the easiest and fastest to copy, I would think.
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Old 11-27-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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But back when the Bible was compiled, those books had as many followers as the ones that were used. How do you know that they were not more the word of God than the books that were chosen?
No …

The Canon was established based upon some requirements for inclusion, including (1) widespread acceptance as authoritative across the geography of the Church, and (2) "Apostolic" age and content …

The notion that authoritarian bishops rounded up and trashed books that otherwise would and should have been included is just sensational hype ...
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Old 11-27-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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No …

The Canon was established based upon some requirements for inclusion, including (1) widespread acceptance as authoritative across the geography of the Church, and (2) "Apostolic" age and content …

The notion that authoritarian bishops rounded up and trashed books that otherwise would and should have been included is just sensational hype ...
Actually, it is recorded history.
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