Things not in the Bible (hell, church, Jerusalem, pray)
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Perhaps the reason is that those things are not relevant in the story of man's fall and redemption.
Then the ones about slavery and womens' rights would be better not mentioned at all. Since they were, the absence of an enlightened view such as we hold today is a significant omission. More so than the absence of a reference to "a tablet which can be held to the ear and through which one can talk to a person on the other side of this world which by the way is spherical, not flat as I implied in Genesis..."
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
Or, perhaps those anonymous storytellers from thousands of years ago were not actually channeling a god at all.
That is not impossible, now you come to mention it.
Then the ones about slavery and womens' rights would be better not mentioned at all. Since they were, the absence of an enlightened view such as we hold today is a significant omission. More so than the absence of a reference to "a tablet which can be held to the ear and through which one can talk to a person on the other side of this world which by the way is spherical, not flat as I implied in Genesis..."
They were mentioned because it specifically impacted God's people.
Job 26-7:"He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing. 8"He wraps up the waters in His clouds, And the cloud does not burst under them.…
Who would have thought that an ancient text (thought to have been written 1900/1700 BC) could have been so, um ... accurate?
Job 26-7:"He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing. 8"He wraps up the waters in His clouds, And the cloud does not burst under them.…
Who would have thought that an ancient text (thought to have been written 1900/1700 BC) could have been so, um ... accurate?
Interesting! That goes to show that the bible writers did not know of the existence of the universe which supports my assertion that God did not create the universe and that the bible does not say he did.
Which is of course something else not in the bible - that God created the universe.
Job 26-7:"He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing. 8"He wraps up the waters in His clouds, And the cloud does not burst under them.…
Who would have thought that an ancient text (thought to have been written 1900/1700 BC) could have been so, um ... accurate?
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Originally Posted by 303Guy
Interesting! That goes to show that the bible writers did not know of the existence of the universe which supports my assertion that God did not create the universe and that the bible does not say he did.
Which is of course something else not in the bible - that God created the universe.
Well, in all fairness ...it sort of does:
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
From KJV
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6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
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14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Here 'Heaven' is the sky above us into which God placed the two great lights and the stars to give us light at night. No universe mentioned. See what I mean?
Anyway, it would be physically impossible for God to have created the whole universe in on day (make it six if you like) since it takes a little time to move across the universe. Like 93 billion years. That's just a tad longer than six days. There ain't no magic that can make that happen.
Remember that there are only a few thousand visible stars in the night sky and those are all within our near neighborhood within our own galaxy and our own galaxy is visible to us only as a hazy light patch across the night sky.
That's why I insist the bible does not say God created the universe.
I'm sorry to say, Jeff, that is NOT one of your better arguments. Instead of trying to link the progress of the state of Israel with prophecy, you talk about how hated they were (thanks to Christianity, Jeff), how they revived a dead language (the Hindus did the same after independence) and how they put their European -learned expertise to turning their grabbed land into one that suited them.
So that's supposed to prove ..what? After WWII Japan was a nation on the floor. It tried to manufacture its way out of ruin and the result was the worst industrial joke after the "Great leap forward".
"Back to the Future" put it best. As Doc. opined, "Made in Japan" was a byword for cheap unreliable crap in the 50's. Now as Marty says, "all the best stuff is made in Japan". You want to say that they 'forced all that to happen, huh?'
Yep. That's right, Jeff that's exactly what happened. State of Israel, after perhaps wash your hands after going to the John in Leviticus is the best 'Hidden Knowledge' passage in the Bible, and it really doesn't stand up, when you look at it.
Oh yes. The current problems derive not so much from Israel but from...yep. The Bloody George Bush family whose invasion of Kuwait by way of Saudi Arabia launched Al Quaida and the 2nd and far more detestable Bush purportedly Finished the Job and Al Quaida and dropped us in it up to our collective necks. Inevitably, Israel became the banner for Muslim terrorism rather than US boots on Sacred saudi soil, which wouldn't motivate many suicide bombers, but it was the pubic Bushes, not Israel that kick started the present panic.
NOTHING will convince skeptics so I don't even know why I try. Everything I mentioned was not forced to happen. You don't force a holocaust. You don't force your country to become the center pin of your world politics. The Jews have hated in the Middle East and worldwide since Biblical times. Not the Aztecs. Not the Mayans. Not the Palestinians. The Jews. And how many other Middle Eastern nations turn the desserts into fruit baskets and enjoy prosperity like Israel? You might make a case for Dubai but that's a city propped up by extreme wealth that could crumble at any time.
Blaming it all on Bush is just a ridiculous stretch not grounded in any kind of reality. I guess Bush caused WW2 as well?
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I'm sorry to say, Jeff, that is NOT one of your better arguments. Instead of trying to link the progress of the state of Israel with prophecy, you talk about how hated they were (thanks to Christianity, Jeff), how they revived a dead language (the Hindus did the same after independence) and how they put their European -learned expertise to turning their grabbed land into one that suited them.
