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Old 05-20-2016, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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much of the bible is allegory and myth.
You are blind, my friend. The bible is literal and allegorical.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I would suggest that the last person that is to judge a religion and say what it actually teaches is the person that is on the outside, looking in. As you've said yourself, you are not qualified to do so.
Uh, excuse me, Vizio, but how many times have you judged Mormonism and said what it teaches -- from the outside?
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Uh, excuse me, Vizio, but how many times have you judged Mormonism and said what it teaches -- from the outside?
The living Jesus -vs.- Mormonism, Catholicism, Islam, Baptism, Lutherinism, Baptism, Episcapal, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, Spiritism, Paganism, Pride, satanism, Atheism, your own "intelligence" USA, England, Vatican, other corporations, humans, etc. etc.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You are blind, my friend. The bible is literal and allegorical.
The bible has some relevance, in so far as some of its tales - like those of Aesop or the Brothers Grimm - have morals to their fanciful stories.

But only children, or the determinedly childlike, can convince themselves of its literal truths.

The rest of us would simply pity you, if you didn't also indoctrinate children and vote for morons.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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You are blind, my friend. The bible is literal and allegorical.
Your local phone book is more so.
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I would challenge you to back up that assertion. Please provide some evidence that the Bible was edited multiple times. The facts go against your claims. Seriously. I'd encourage you to do some research on the topic of textual criticism. You demonstrate you either have no clue, or you are being intentionally misleading.
When was the printing press invented?
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:18 PM
 
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I would challenge you to back up that assertion. Please provide some evidence that the Bible was edited multiple time.



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Old 05-23-2016, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I'll take that as a no. I do agree that the Christian does not know but that is not what they claim. We do not know either of course. You in particular do not know. You have just admitted that there is not reason to assume there is such a thing as heaven or hell or anything in between. That makes believing in something just because no-one know (or can ever know) is pretty silly.


You are quite right.

Isn't Christianity sexually transmitted?

I mean, if a child is born to Christian parents, it will be indoctrinated into the same beliefs. Sure, some will see the light and break free. Also, some folks will become entrapped and get indoctrinated but basically, Christianity is what one is born into and one gets born due to sex.
Bolded. EXACTLY..which is EXACTLY what I was addressing to "The ALL KNOWING" who claimed that he most certainly did know.....and then you took huge issue with that before coming around and agreeing to exactly what the hell I was saying. You haven't died and come back, either, so DUH, NO ONE KNOWS, was the fricken point! FCS!

What a colossal waste of time.

By the way, who the hell ever said I was Christian? More ASSumptions on your part.
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Bolded. EXACTLY..which is EXACTLY what I was addressing to "The ALL KNOWING" who claimed that he most certainly did know.....and then you took huge issue with that before coming around and agreeing to exactly what the hell I was saying. You haven't died and come back, either, so DUH, NO ONE KNOWS, was the fricken point! FCS!

What a colossal waste of time.

By the way, who the hell ever said I was Christian? More ASSumptions on your part.
Well, you sounded like you were criticizing us. I've gone back and re-read your post and now I'm not sure who you were criticizing. Did I misinterpret your meaning? That would be my blunder. If so, I apologize.
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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(image of differences between KJV and some other translation)
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but translating anything, not just the Bible, is not going to produce an accurate rendering of the original in another language, in the sense that it can be proven mathematically or in some other way, 100% correct. Otherwise there would be no need for more than one translation per target language. Each translation is crafted with a certain balance in mind between literal translation and idiomatic translation, and each one translated chronologically later has access to a more complete corpus of original manuscripts to translate from. All of these things plus the simple fact that there are often multiple ways to say the same thing in any language, mean that of course there will be zillions of differences between any two translations. Plus the occasional error (I believe there's a rare edition of the KJV that misprints one of the ten commandments, e.g., "thou shalt commit adultery").

So this does not support the contention that the Bible has undergone corruption or editing. Any fundamentalist (shy of one of those KJV-only folks) will tell you that the Bible is inerrant in the original manuscripts.

So the real substantiation for this claim has to do with the fact that no one HAS the original manuscripts and there are copying differences between the nth-generation fragments we have, including significant passages that appear to have been added generations after the original authors penned them. One then gets into a technical argument about how consequential those differences are.

Many fundamentalists are willing to claim on the one hand that the Bible is verbally and plenarily inspired by god and that this is what makes it unique among all the books in the world, yet on the other that thousands of differences between various scribal copies of copies of copies are not worth worrying about and don't materially impact its message or its veracity. Even more remarkable is that they generally will claim that god has supernaturally preserved the Bible for our perusal today.
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