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Pretty much. None does. Used to read about all the OTHER gods, religions and religious beliefs I was supposed to debunk when I was a Christian. They did nothing for me then now now. There in no objective evidence that convinces and that "faith" thing seems more like a cop out. Perhaps there is some "higher power." It could be the universe's energy or a plant in the middle of the Amazon or even a block of ice on Ceres. It has not told me anything, instructed me on anything or asked me to worship it. Someone telling me they know it better than i could and telling me I need to believe in it this way or that is more repulsive than inviting.
No problem.It happens a lot here. Even I, the ME, get confused.
This is the conclusion that is NOT warranted from the many absurd and ridiculous beliefs ABOUT God, sans. Human beliefs ABOUT God have no bearing on the existence of God which is self-evident in the reality that is responsible for our very existence. At the very least, that reality is our God.
Not true about the crucifixion being Divinely-engineered, Arq. That was ALL human ignorance, barbarity and brutality in defense of barbaric beliefs about God. Christ's response to it was the ultimate demonstration of God's TRUE NATURE because Jesus was the embodiment of God's Spirit of agape love. It unambiguously revealed the "love even your enemies" part of Christ's Gospel. If there was ever any doubt that His Sermon on the Mount was a true representation of His teachings, His response to the crucifixion should have removed all doubt. Regrettably, the barbaric "blood sacrifice to appease God" meme that dominated relationships with God corrupted His demonstration and turned it into the ultimate blood sacrifice to appease God. It is a travesty of human perversity.
I see. You evidently haven't read (or remembered) any of my posts about "Q" document or the Crucifixion story. Still, thanks for clarifying all that.
The people that wrote the Bible and were trying to get people to believe when there was no evidence said that.
That goes back to your nonsense of "evidence". Show us how many humans get to the truth that black holes exist with evidence.
Humans in majority rely almost exclusively on putting faith to a small group of humans they believe to be in direct contact with the truth itself to get to truth.
You can't even provide the evidence of your own existence on the 365 days in 2015. Or show us the evidence about what you did and said on, arbitrarily, Feb 24, 2015.
And you seem to be confused with evidence vs faith. Believing something because it has evidence is not the same as believing something that does NOT have evidence.
How many humans have the evidence of the existence of black holes?
Show us.
Apparently, you don't know what you yourself are talking about. Do yourself a reality check, as in this very reality humans in majority will choose to believe with faith in approaching a truth.
No problem.It happens a lot here. Even I, the ME, get confused.
This is the conclusion that is NOT warranted from the many absurd and ridiculous beliefs ABOUT God, sans. Human beliefs ABOUT God have no bearing on the existence of God which is self-evident in the reality that is responsible for our very existence. At the very least, that reality is our God.
Not true about the crucifixion being Divinely-engineered, Arq. That was ALL human ignorance, barbarity and brutality in defense of barbaric beliefs about God. Christ's response to it was the ultimate demonstration of God's TRUE NATURE because Jesus was the embodiment of God's Spirit of agape love. It unambiguously revealed the "love even your enemies" part of Christ's Gospel. If there was ever any doubt that His Sermon on the Mount was a true representation of His teachings, His response to the crucifixion should have removed all doubt. Regrettably, the barbaric "blood sacrifice to appease God" meme that dominated relationships with God corrupted His demonstration and turned it into the ultimate blood sacrifice to appease God. It is a travesty of human perversity.
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I see. You evidently haven't read (or remembered) any of my posts about "Q" document or the Crucifixion story. Still, thanks for clarifying all that.
I did read and I remembered (but it isn't improbable that I might not have). Your bible scholarship is impressive, Arq, always has been. Letting it determine the feasibility of the existence of God is where you are misled, IMO.
It's never a surprise for God not to contact (in the past) someone openly admitted (right now) that he has little faith.
It is the saying that "all are invited but only a few are chosen".
You are perverting the teaching of First Church of the Frigidaire, where many are cold, but few are frozen.
Seriously though, listen to yourself. You're actually callously suggesting that people who "lack" religious faith deserve to be eternally discarded as worthless. Quite a belief-system you have there, that you can do that with a straight face and no shame -- or even, really, regret.
I did read and I remembered (but it isn't improbable that I might not have). Your bible scholarship is impressive, Arq, always has been. Letting it determine the feasibility of the existence of God is where you are misled, IMO.
It evidently misled you, old chum. It only leads me to doubt that followers of Jesus wrote the gospels, that it records anything of what he said and discounts a lot of what he supposedly did, and pretty much debunks (if I am not far out) the Christian Jesus, but supports an historical (Jewish) Jesus. It only reflects on Biblegod in a circumstantial way, and on your Cosmic Mind - god, has nothing to say at all. I'm surprised that you think it has.
How many humans have the evidence of the existence of black holes?
Show us.
Apparently, you don't know what you yourself are talking about. Do yourself a reality check, as in this very reality humans in majority will choose to believe with faith in approaching a truth.
Repeating the same claims don't make them true.
Repeatedly conflating trust with religious faith doesn't make them equivalent (or even nearly the same).
Rational humans do not approach a truth with religious faith, but by evaluating available evidence and logical argument to determine probabilities. That evaluation can involve trust where appropriate, but is not limited to it. But as I said, it doesn't matter if it were based entirely on trust ... that doesn't get you to the equivalency with religious faith that you're gunning for.
How many humans have the evidence of the existence of black holes?
Show us.
Apparently, you don't know what you yourself are talking about. Do yourself a reality check, as in this very reality humans in majority will choose to believe with faith in approaching a truth.
Someone explain to this poster the established validity of scientific data, upon which we all rely every day, including himself.
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