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I've been told by a few people that water did not exist, nor light, before the BB? And if you ask them why do they think that? they don't seem to know themselves.
That is why you think that, because you were told many, many times?
I told you where my God came from and why I doubt what you claim here.
Your claim that BB came from "Nothing," Something that did not existed.
Your biggest problem is finding something and trying to show me how it is "Nothing," it doesn't exist.
Seem to me like you've trapped yourself in a foolproof trap. But you can't imagine that. Fine.
It has been explained where water came from and why it didn't exist before the BB. And you haven't explained where 'your' God came from. Not that I can recall. The reason why water light or anything else could not exist before the BB is because the stuff out of which such an event has to become compressed cannot be anything like the particles that 'evolved' later on otherwise the BB could not compress to be as small and as powerful as it was.
What the stuff was has to be, after regression gets as far as it can, a nothing that could fluctuate quantum -like. It didn't need to be created, it was and is eternal, it is (probably, I would suggest) what we will find everything is actually made of, at bottom, and is not of course any water, light or anything else we'd call a particle. And if you can't comprehend such concepts, then that is your problem and not ours.
A gid is Not Neccer-sarry, and does not on all evidence seem to exist. Another explanation is needed, if so, and this is a sight better than than just inventing a non -existent god that didn't need to come from anywhere and di everything in a way that you can't explain. Since I don't recall that you even tried.
Any God but Bible God is fine, would be predetermined prejudice.
Basing opinions on faith? Faith is "Confidence or trust in a person or thing."
Every opinion is based upon faith in something, even yours. And you certainly seem to have faith in your illogical opinions.
I'm afraid you can't project your own bias and prejudices onto me. A god of some sort is less disprovable than the god described in the Bible, because the Bible is demonstrably unreliable. Don't blame me.
Your attempt to work a semantic fiddle on 'Faith' is not going to get you very far either. Even if the 'Faith' I have is just as unquestioningly trusting as is Theist -type faith (which it isn't) it is based on the findings of science, which are evidence-verified and not on the claims of a debunked old book plus denial of the verified science, as you have been trying to do, without much success, since all you seem to be doing is retreat from each overrun trench to the final last ditch Theist defence: "where did all the stuff that everything came from come from, eh?"
Answer is the same every time. 'Wherever, or however it got there, that a fully formed invisible being with no origin of its' own was there to do it makes no sense".
This is going to be the rebuttal to any 'nothing can come from nothing' apologetic. And that you may declare that it makes no sense to you makes no difference to us.
Faith is only needed in the court, a person who sees the path and one who progreses to the Holy place is progressively coming to the day of the Lord in his own lifetime, and there comes a point in that progression where faith is no longer needed, one's life will change when he is visited, and then their faith is justified in reality in a visitation.
I've been told by a few people that water did not exist, nor light, before the BB? And if you ask them why do they think that? they don't seem to know themselves.
That is why you think that, because you were told many, many times?
I told you where my God came from and why I doubt what you claim here.
Your claim that BB came from "Nothing," Something that did not existed.
Your biggest problem is finding something and trying to show me how it is "Nothing," it doesn't exist.
Seem to me like you've trapped yourself in a foolproof trap. But you can't imagine that. Fine.
Did you watch any of the video list I gave you? They explain how "nothing" is not what you think it is. The elements that comprise water, dihydrogen monoxide, did not, and could not exist before the Big Bang. Neil Tyson deGrasse has a very short, succinct, educational video. Take less than 4 minutes to learn something.
Did you watch any of the video list I gave you? They explain how "nothing" is not what you think it is. The elements that comprise water, dihydrogen monoxide, did not, and could not exist before the Big Bang. Neil Tyson deGrasse has a very short, succinct, educational video. Take less than 4 minutes to learn something.
Copperhead bit the back of my heel this morning about 3 hours ago...I didn't think it was gonna swell up much, but it is swollen now. Kinda stiff and swollen, but not much pain...not as bad as I expected.
I'm on old slow pc with outdated WinXp...
I know what the word "Nothing" means, "It doesn't exist."
And I know how we use it...Go, look out the window...what did you see? Nothing.
"Nothing, may not be what you think it is..." but what, I go look at the video and find out "Nothing," is really what? Something?
Here is your simple claim: "The elements that comprise water, dihydrogen monoxide, did not, and could not exist before the Big Bang."
All I am asking is "The reason you think that?" If "Nothing existed before the BB, what the heck was there to compress?" Where is the pressure coming from? A collapse of nothing? I'm not looking for evidence, I'm looking for signs of reasoning.
Google speaks: "But what were things like before the Big Bang? Short answer: We don't know. Long answer: It could have been a lot of things, each mind-bending in its own way.Apr 17, 2019"
Now I'm gonna go pet my swollen foot. Google said 1 in 5000 copperhead bites are fatal...but usually because the person is allergic...but friend told me they took copperhead off the fatal poison list.
Faith is only needed in the court, a person who sees the path and one who progreses to the Holy place is progressively coming to the day of the Lord in his own lifetime, and there comes a point in that progression where faith is no longer needed, one's life will change when he is visited, and then their faith is justified in reality in a visitation.
Then i shall prefer court procedure rather than appeals to Faith (whatever happened to the judge who overruled a jury because God spoke to him? Is he still washing lettuce?) and until that Day comes I shall continue Not to put trust in Faith -based assertions inadequately supported by evidence or sound logic.
Copperhead bit the back of my heel this morning about 3 hours ago...I didn't think it was gonna swell up much, but it is swollen now. Kinda stiff and swollen, but not much pain...not as bad as I expected.
Now I'm gonna go pet my swollen foot. Google said 1 in 5000 copperhead bites are fatal...but usually because the person is allergic...but friend told me they took copperhead off the fatal poison list.
Hope you will be Ok. Take care and get well.
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A god of some sort is less disprovable than the god described in the Bible, because the Bible is demonstrably unreliable. Don't blame me.
